PHIL HERNON
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WTF is the problem? Doctors prescribe steroids every day. Is congress going to tell doctors what to prescribe patients now?
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NFL players getting steroids from doctor.
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from steroid center ooop I mean ESPN
Updated: March 29, 2005, 3:56 PM ET
Report: Players had script filled before Super Bowl
Associated Press
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Carolina Panthers Todd Sauerbrun and Jeff Mitchell and former player Todd Steussie had steroid prescriptions filled by a West Columbia, S.C., doctor now under investigation by federal authorities, according to a "60 Minutes Wednesday" report.
In a release Tuesday, the CBS News show said the players all had prescriptions for testosterone cream filled within two weeks of the Panthers' appearance in the 2004 Super Bowl.
In addition to the cream, which is banned by the NFL, Sauerbrun -- one of the league's top punters -- also obtained syringes and the injectable steroid Stanozolol, which is also banned by the league.
The prescriptions were reportedly written by Dr. James Shortt, who is the subject of a Drug Enforcement Administration probe for allegedly prescribing steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs.
Mitchell, a center, filled a testosterone prescription seven times, while Steussie, an offensive lineman now with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, obtained 11 refills over an eight-month period in 2004, CBS reported.
Panthers general manager Marty Hurney has said the team is cooperating with a federal subpoena that sought contact information for several players as part of the probe of Shortt. He has said he is not aware of any of the team's players testing positive for steroids.
Hurney did not immediately return a call from the AP seeking comment Tuesday.
According to a report last month in The State of Columbia, Shortt has been under investigation since May.
In September, authorities raided Shortt's Health Dimensions office and Congaree Pharmacy near the Columbia Metropolitan Airport. State and federal agents seized computer data, at least 21 boxes of patient and medical records and 256 audio cassettes, the paper reported.
The "60 Minutes Wednesday" report also includes an interview with a former employee of Shortt, Mignon Simpson, who says she personally shipped human growth hormone to NFL players and that possibly a half-dozen players received hGH from Shortt.
There is no reliable test for hGH.
CBS said Mitchell and Steussie did not respond to repeated calls and letters seeking comment. The network said that when it contacted Sauerbrun by phone, and asked him about Shortt, the punter said, "I like the guy very much."
Ten minutes later, CBS said, Sauerbrun called back to say he had been confused and that he did not know Shortt.
Updated: March 29, 2005, 3:56 PM ET
Report: Players had script filled before Super Bowl
Associated Press
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Carolina Panthers Todd Sauerbrun and Jeff Mitchell and former player Todd Steussie had steroid prescriptions filled by a West Columbia, S.C., doctor now under investigation by federal authorities, according to a "60 Minutes Wednesday" report.
In a release Tuesday, the CBS News show said the players all had prescriptions for testosterone cream filled within two weeks of the Panthers' appearance in the 2004 Super Bowl.
In addition to the cream, which is banned by the NFL, Sauerbrun -- one of the league's top punters -- also obtained syringes and the injectable steroid Stanozolol, which is also banned by the league.
The prescriptions were reportedly written by Dr. James Shortt, who is the subject of a Drug Enforcement Administration probe for allegedly prescribing steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs.
Mitchell, a center, filled a testosterone prescription seven times, while Steussie, an offensive lineman now with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, obtained 11 refills over an eight-month period in 2004, CBS reported.
Panthers general manager Marty Hurney has said the team is cooperating with a federal subpoena that sought contact information for several players as part of the probe of Shortt. He has said he is not aware of any of the team's players testing positive for steroids.
Hurney did not immediately return a call from the AP seeking comment Tuesday.
According to a report last month in The State of Columbia, Shortt has been under investigation since May.
In September, authorities raided Shortt's Health Dimensions office and Congaree Pharmacy near the Columbia Metropolitan Airport. State and federal agents seized computer data, at least 21 boxes of patient and medical records and 256 audio cassettes, the paper reported.
The "60 Minutes Wednesday" report also includes an interview with a former employee of Shortt, Mignon Simpson, who says she personally shipped human growth hormone to NFL players and that possibly a half-dozen players received hGH from Shortt.
There is no reliable test for hGH.
CBS said Mitchell and Steussie did not respond to repeated calls and letters seeking comment. The network said that when it contacted Sauerbrun by phone, and asked him about Shortt, the punter said, "I like the guy very much."
Ten minutes later, CBS said, Sauerbrun called back to say he had been confused and that he did not know Shortt.
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Wow, good thing I don't get anything from a doctor. 
Yep, I bet this is going to start effecting everyone. HRT will probably start disappearing. Doctors will probably start hesitating prescribing to aids and cancer for prevention of musclular wasting. The government just doesn't want steroids to exist. It doesn't matter how beneficial they may be to certain people. All that matters is that's what the government has pointed it's laser at and they won't stop until they feel like they've squashed the problem.
It really sucks that even the people who try to juice legally will now have no alternative but to take the illegal route. Boy, our leaders are stupid.
Yep, I bet this is going to start effecting everyone. HRT will probably start disappearing. Doctors will probably start hesitating prescribing to aids and cancer for prevention of musclular wasting. The government just doesn't want steroids to exist. It doesn't matter how beneficial they may be to certain people. All that matters is that's what the government has pointed it's laser at and they won't stop until they feel like they've squashed the problem.
It really sucks that even the people who try to juice legally will now have no alternative but to take the illegal route. Boy, our leaders are stupid.
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Well, doctors are pretty much forbidden to write a prescription for ASS for cosmetic or performance enhancing reasons. If he can show that these NFL players were hypogonadal, then that is within indication for the drug. If he can't show this through the patient charts, then he is screwed.
I also know a doctor in Dallas who used to have NFL players and other professional athletes fly in to see him so they could get their growth hormone. He made a ton of money doing this. Not sure if he wrote AAS for them. I bet he is getting out of the game now tho.
I also know a doctor in Dallas who used to have NFL players and other professional athletes fly in to see him so they could get their growth hormone. He made a ton of money doing this. Not sure if he wrote AAS for them. I bet he is getting out of the game now tho.
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I think its bullshit u can get prescribed Viagra to improve ur performance in bed so some old man can keep it up like a 20 year old for his lil hoes, but u cant get prescribed anything to help ur performance on the field. Ignorance truely is bliss! the more i learn about this country the more mad i get!
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Im not soley placing blame on...
Dubya there are numerous others John Mccain in AZ and that doof from virg who called the whole baseball legislation together. Other then Harkin I have not heard much from a Dem. making such a huge statement, commending the stop abuse and educate the youngsters but not the same level of aggressiveness I percieve from the republican party. Witch hunt is getting old!!!!!!
gooey
Dubya there are numerous others John Mccain in AZ and that doof from virg who called the whole baseball legislation together. Other then Harkin I have not heard much from a Dem. making such a huge statement, commending the stop abuse and educate the youngsters but not the same level of aggressiveness I percieve from the republican party. Witch hunt is getting old!!!!!!
gooey
Well FUCK
Charlotte is right down the road from me - i would have hooked these fuckers up and saved them some trouble
Hell, Dr. JJ will even write them a fucking script for some season tickets.
Mother fucker this will never stop - now they are going to say the Panthers "cheated" there way into the super bowl.
FUCK THIS GOVERNMENT IN THE ASS!!!
JJ
Charlotte is right down the road from me - i would have hooked these fuckers up and saved them some trouble
Hell, Dr. JJ will even write them a fucking script for some season tickets.
Mother fucker this will never stop - now they are going to say the Panthers "cheated" there way into the super bowl.
FUCK THIS GOVERNMENT IN THE ASS!!!
JJ
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yes possibly but...
We know its illegal and there is nothing that is really going to change that. Its the fact that in my time no other, pres. or governing body has made such a stink about it since I have been able to listen to the news. Ive never heard of a prez talk about it in a state of the union address, nor have I seen the govt so admitantly wanting to stick its nose in where is doesnt belong. Very aggressive right now and it only comes from public belief and opinion that has been led on by our current gov't.
gooey
Big Ed said:
We know its illegal and there is nothing that is really going to change that. Its the fact that in my time no other, pres. or governing body has made such a stink about it since I have been able to listen to the news. Ive never heard of a prez talk about it in a state of the union address, nor have I seen the govt so admitantly wanting to stick its nose in where is doesnt belong. Very aggressive right now and it only comes from public belief and opinion that has been led on by our current gov't.
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I went to University with three guys who played pro ball, two in the CFL and one in the NFL.
Several years after the CFL er's finished we were eating supper and one told a story about performance issues in their day. It was not, " ok, you need to train this and work that play more . . . " It was a walk to the training room and a Med Cabinet where a trainer said " you need a shot of this and some of those."
He told me that at that level, they all have the plays down and the tools, so it's an ( or was, we are talking the early 90's ) enhancement issue.
You know despite my years of thoughts on these issues, I can't see who gives a fuck who takes what when it come to sports.
Boo.
Several years after the CFL er's finished we were eating supper and one told a story about performance issues in their day. It was not, " ok, you need to train this and work that play more . . . " It was a walk to the training room and a Med Cabinet where a trainer said " you need a shot of this and some of those."
He told me that at that level, they all have the plays down and the tools, so it's an ( or was, we are talking the early 90's ) enhancement issue.
You know despite my years of thoughts on these issues, I can't see who gives a fuck who takes what when it come to sports.
Boo.
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The way I look at it is eventually people are going to get sick of hearing about steroids 24/7. Let the government blow their load now, they are beating this topic to death, b/c it will die down once they realize the public has lost interest in it....like we do about everything eventually. They will never cleanup sports as long as someone has a college chemistry degree and wants to make $$$$........until then just be a little more careful.
A hopeful view, but mine none-the-less.
The way I look at it is eventually people are going to get sick of hearing about steroids 24/7. Let the government blow their load now, they are beating this topic to death, b/c it will die down once they realize the public has lost interest in it....like we do about everything eventually. They will never cleanup sports as long as someone has a college chemistry degree and wants to make $$$$........until then just be a little more careful.
A hopeful view, but mine none-the-less.
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the funny part is that the media acts surprised that these athletes are taking any of this stuff. A guy that is 6'3" and 250lbs isnt probably supposed to run a 4.6 40! i dont know why they just dont stick with hgh and not get caught!
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