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NFL Thread

There is a massive difference between Jimmy G and Baker.

Jimmy, for one, was thrust into a well-run organization with talent (better than his own) around him.
Yes, he's definitely maxed out his potential. I can agree with that. But Baker has had no stability with coordinators, coaching or staying healthy. IF he had that, i could maybe see similarities. Baker is just an idiot and lost the lockerroom, but i am yet to write him off as shitty non-NFL starter.


LOL realllly? I can't tell if you're joking here.
I like Watson as a player, freaking badass. But is prettttty obvious that he is a creep. If it were 2, 4, maybe 6 girls saying the same story, I could understand your theory, but 22+ ....that is some Bill Cosby shit lol Thinking its all some plan by a lawyer is conspiracy thinking at its finest.
Im fine with him not being indicted by the grand jury, but its pretty clear he has a unique fetish about "personal masseuses." Weiiird.
Yeah man, I think many NFL guys are targeted and such but trying to play that card w this fucking guy lol

The documents are out there. Watson is a scumbag w a odd fetish, plain and simple. Maybe a couple of these chicks are trying to cash in but all of them!? Come on man.
 
How does the slob in Carolina still have a job? Never understood what made him a candidate for a NFL head coach gig lol
 
I dunno all the details and evidence I've seen points to it as they were legit therapists and he was a pervert with a fetish, texts, money exchange, not him hooking up on ig. His mom also wanted him away from Hopkins because he was a bad influence on him hence why O'Brien gave away Hopkins, something to do with Watsons mother reaching out to McNair's wife as she was worried about him. Then Watson got involved with an agent and not to get it into politics but the agent has an agenda and made demands that have to do with race.

But for Cleveland it may work out, they are giving up alot of resources for him in draft picks and cap dollars will be interesting to see the talent they can surround him with in coming years

I do not think Baltimore will pay Lamar that and he could very well get traded, the QB contacts are now out of hand because this contract set the bar
LOL realllly? I can't tell if you're joking here.
I like Watson as a player, freaking badass. But is prettttty obvious that he is a creep. If it were 2, 4, maybe 6 girls saying the same story, I could understand your theory, but 22+ ....that is some Bill Cosby shit lol Thinking its all some plan by a lawyer is conspiracy thinking at its finest.
Im fine with him not being indicted by the grand jury, but its pretty clear he has a unique fetish about "personal masseuses." Weiiird.


I'm not sure what documents, texts, etc, you guys are referring to, but let me be clear

I didn't say he didn't have a problem, a fetish, etc

I said it seems rather obvious that he was having consensual sex with "models" who advertise themselves as massage therapists on Instagram

There is of course a massive problem and red flag with him hiring all these different women for "massages" in order to hook up with them.

Namely, it just doesn't make any sense, and indicates some flaw or perversion in his thinking. If he wants to have sex with a thousand different "baddies", he could just make a single post on his IG that says "whose trying to fuck?" and he would get more offers than he can handle, including from plenty of "baddies."

I mean, back in my "hook up" days I could easily get over 200 matches on Tinder within a few weeks and send a "down to hook up?" copy/paste to all of them and have around a dozen of them come through. And I'm not a rich celebrity pro football player. It bewilders me how these guys do the things they do, when they could get so much pussy so easily, and yet they still do stupid stuff and get themselves in bad situations.

Anyways, my point was that despite Deshaun's profligate behavior with massage therapists, my feeling is that it was consensual. And as such, I don't think the Browns "made a deal with the devil" in that sense.
 
I'm not sure what documents, texts, etc, you guys are referring to, but let me be clear

I didn't say he didn't have a problem, a fetish, etc

I said it seems rather obvious that he was having consensual sex with "models" who advertise themselves as massage therapists on Instagram

There is of course a massive problem and red flag with him hiring all these different women for "massages" in order to hook up with them.

Namely, it just doesn't make any sense, and indicates some flaw or perversion in his thinking. If he wants to have sex with a thousand different "baddies", he could just make a single post on his IG that says "whose trying to fuck?" and he would get more offers than he can handle, including from plenty of "baddies."

I mean, back in my "hook up" days I could easily get over 200 matches on Tinder within a few weeks and send a "down to hook up?" copy/paste to all of them and have around a dozen of them come through. And I'm not a rich celebrity pro football player. It bewilders me how these guys do the things they do, when they could get so much pussy so easily, and yet they still do stupid stuff and get themselves in bad situations.

Anyways, my point was that despite Deshaun's profligate behavior with massage therapists, my feeling is that it was consensual. And as such, I don't think the Browns "made a deal with the devil" in that sense.
Based on what I read they were not looking to get random cock on it or prostitute themselves, he sought out legit massage therapists who used ig to offer legitimate service and he got off on jacking off and cummig while they massaged him.

Thru didn't want to fuck him and we're disgusted by what he did, I believe one of them did have sex with him not sure if it was money or not.

That's where I was disagreeing. They were not ig models/sugar baby/prostitute/slut/groupies, they were legit massage therapists who agreed to meet him to offer a legitimate massage.
 
Based on what I read they were not looking to get random cock on it or prostitute themselves, he sought out legit massage therapists who used ig to offer legitimate service and he got off on jacking off and cummig while they massaged him.

Thru didn't want to fuck him and we're disgusted by what he did, I believe one of them did have sex with him not sure if it was money or not.

That's where I was disagreeing. They were not ig models/sugar baby/prostitute/slut/groupies, they were legit massage therapists who agreed to meet him to offer a legitimate massage.
I didn't think they were advertising or working as the kind of massage therapists that are actually more like prostitutes, but that they were very good looking women who used their good looks to market their business as massage therapists.
 
I didn't think they were advertising or working as the kind of massage therapists that are actually more like prostitutes, but that they were very good looking women who used their good looks to market their business as massage therapists.
Nope, several of the them were actual advertised massage therapists. NOT individual people posting ads. There are several of them where he went through masseuse companies for therapists. This wasn't backpage ads.

Even if he was hooking up with random escorts, it is beyond comprehension that 20+ of them would allll come forward alleging weird sexual misconduct. Like I said, maayybe a couple...but 20+? Nah, that's a creep with a fetish who got a bit too ballsy.

Back to the NFL and a topic worth talking, DeAndre Hopkins getting suspended is a big deal. I WISH they would give the actual drugs guys get popped for.
 
Nope, several of the them were actual advertised massage therapists. NOT individual people posting ads. There are several of them where he went through masseuse companies for therapists. This wasn't backpage ads.

Even if he was hooking up with random escorts, it is beyond comprehension that 20+ of them would allll come forward alleging weird sexual misconduct. Like I said, maayybe a couple...but 20+? Nah, that's a creep with a fetish who got a bit too ballsy.

Back to the NFL and a topic worth talking, DeAndre Hopkins getting suspended is a big deal. I WISH they would give the actual drugs guys get popped for.
The Hopkins suspension reminds me of the DK Metcalf thread

People said all NFL players are juicing, dk is jacked must be on juice, juice matters in the NFL not talent

Why then aren't all NFL players getting popped and why doesn't Hopkins look like Metcalf

Just like I'm life, in sports, genetics is king. These guys are freaks. Dk can eat Skittles and soy and walk into a gym past the guys using 2g eating 4k calories, do some pushups, and walk out and look better lol
 
Bills got the new stadium now Titans trying to get one.

Anyone have thoughts on relocation or expansion? When will one of these teams move or we see a new team?
 
Bills got the new stadium now Titans trying to get one.

Anyone have thoughts on relocation or expansion? When will one of these teams move or we see a new team?
What cities would be in play? Back to St. Louis or San Diego? I am not sure in the current economic situation if the league has any plans any time soon, but I am by no means "in the know" of any plans for expansion in the near future. Expansion always stirs interest an fan enthusiasm at the very least. I think the league is solid as it is, but whatever will create more revenue will win out. I would love to see more teams just from a fans perspective but the NFL is pretty solid as it is now.

Also, what do you guys think about adding more games or do you think it is good as is?

qbkilla, who is your team by the way? I'm a Panthers fan.
 
Was a little upset about KC moving Hill out...But knew it was going to happen this year or next anyways. Tua won't be able to utilize him properly, and Hill's foot has been giving him issues the past year and a half so he's going to be losing steps here soon.

Still KC's GM made out great in the draft...So a lot of holes filled!
 
Was a little upset about KC moving Hill out...But knew it was going to happen this year or next anyways. Tua won't be able to utilize him properly, and Hill's foot has been giving him issues the past year and a half so he's going to be losing steps here soon.

Still KC's GM made out great in the draft...So a lot of holes filled!
Along w Priest Holmes and Derrick Thomas, Hill is a top 3 Chief for me so it was rough to see him go but Veach got a haul for him as you said. The receiver market forced his hand and he did as well as you possibly could if you weren’t going to retain a guy like Tyreek.

His game is obviously predicated on his speed and his hamstrings also give him issue. He stays in great shape year round but I think a drop off is coming soon. I want nothing but success for him in Miami but Tua is no Mahomes.
 
What cities would be in play? Back to St. Louis or San Diego? I am not sure in the current economic situation if the league has any plans any time soon, but I am by no means "in the know" of any plans for expansion in the near future. Expansion always stirs interest an fan enthusiasm at the very least. I think the league is solid as it is, but whatever will create more revenue will win out. I would love to see more teams just from a fans perspective but the NFL is pretty solid as it is now.

Also, what do you guys think about adding more games or do you think it is good as is?

qbkilla, who is your team by the way? I'm a Panthers fan.
Ravens fan, good QB, good coach, imo our gm sucks! Horrible drafting horrible free agency. People think we are still One of the better drafting team based on what we did 10 years ago.

Panthers are a great franchise sad Richardson got cancelled and this flamboyant guy took over and brought in a buffoon coach. I think you guys need to get rid of rhule lol
 
Ravens fan, good QB, good coach, imo our gm sucks! Horrible drafting horrible free agency. People think we are still One of the better drafting team based on what we did 10 years ago.

Panthers are a great franchise sad Richardson got cancelled and this flamboyant guy took over and brought in a buffoon coach. I think you guys need to get rid of rhule lol
I like your team and coach. Outside of my teams division, for me the AFC North has been the most competitive and probably interesting division for me to watch. The Ravens/steelers rivalry has been one of the best for a while now with both teams usually among the leagues best. Also, now with the Bengals emerging it just makes the division even better! The poor Browns can't keep a good thing going. Just when it looks like they have the pieces to compete on a regular basis, it is now in limbo with an unsure qb situation.

Being a GM is a tough job because you're expected to win now but still be able to manage and project talent for the future along with paying everybody! Few have mastered it and it really is sometimes the luck of the draw with incoming rookie talent because until they actually prove themselves in the league you don't really know how they will turn out. But the NFL is fun to watch and the competition committee has all in all done a good job of keeping it fun to watch.

Good luck to your Ravens next year!
 
So one of our defensive lineman basically assaulted a reporter this morning..


And then went on his livestream this evening and cussed him out and pretty much threatened him ("my family knows what you look like')..

 
Maybe we can get a promuscle fantasy league going, need atleast 12 guys, 12 guys who are competitive and take it seriously, don't enjoy "just for fun" leagues
 
Do turned off to the NFL with all these ballers crying about being "opressed" Woke is a disease killing the NFL and America.
 
Make or break year for noodle arm Tua. With all the help he has on offense no excuses. I was hoping they would have drafted Malik Willits. Kid has all the tools to be elite. Tua just plays small and struggles with any throw over 20 yards.
 
Make or break year for noodle arm Tua. With all the help he has on offense no excuses. I was hoping they would have drafted Malik Willits. Kid has all the tools to be elite. Tua just plays small and struggles with any throw over 20 yards.
Agree on little tua, but to be honest, Willis is just a supercharged little tua minus the intangibles.

Willis is short too and a little faster with a better arm. I'd say his cieling is tyrod taylor. You guys need a QB in next year's draft all the ones that came out year suck IMO
 
recent thoughts

- dolphins and tua are embarrassing themselves trying to combat the 'haters' pointing out his weak arm by showing his training camp throws "see he can throw a football!" This wont end well.

- zeek and sequon are done IMO, don't draft them in your fantasy

- lock up the predator QB in Cleveland, Cleveland and this scumbag deserve each other, new info coming out every day.

- IMO McVeigh will pull a Sean Peyton in 2-3 years, retire when the team hits cap hell.

- the panthers newest cheerleader "she's" a beauty!

- Ramsey and Kupp will be asking for new deals soon since they basically gave Donald a raise, rams in trouble.

- Bengals not getting enough respect, they were some shady calls away from being champs and are young and home grown.

- Eagles are loaded, will win east, hurts isn't good but decent.
 
Anyone see the pics of Russ at mini camp? Guy has gotten legit fat. Compare to his rookie year.
 

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