No clen during prep

[Simon90]

What am I missing out on by not using clen during a prep? I've had quite a few guys in my gym now tell me I should be using it and I'm missing out,but when I've pressed on their statements they've been unable to give me a reason as to why.

It's going to be my first show, however it's not the first time I've got very lean before and each time I've dieted I've done so without clen.

Am I really leaving something on the table by not using it?

Appreciate the input. Cheers

 

[luki7788]

You’re just losing out in that you’ll have to create a bigger deficit - meaning you probably need to do more cardio and cut calories harder than if you were using clenbuterol

 

[Simon90]

You’re just losing out in that you’ll have to create a bigger deficit - meaning you probably need to do more cardio and cut calories harder than if you were using clenbuterol

Cheers luki, appreciate the input as always

 

[StadaGear]

You’re just losing out in that you’ll have to create a bigger deficit - meaning you probably need to do more cardio and cut calories harder than if you were using clenbuterol

This. Is basically a stimulant and helps burn fat when used correctly.

It’s also a bronchial dilator so some see breathing benefits when running Tren

 

[AllOkJumpmaster]

bro you can get completely peeled, and stage ready literally using 0 cutting drugs or supplements. Also, since I do not know your reasoning for not using it, but Bronkaid, while not nearly as strong as Clen, can be used in the same manner.

How far out are you, and fat are you currently?

 

[Simon90]

bro you can get completely peeled, and stage ready literally using 0 cutting drugs or supplements. Also, since I do not know your reasoning for not using it, but Bronkaid, while not nearly as strong as Clen, can be used in the same manner.

How far out are you, and fat are you currently?

I just dont get on with stimulants, anything affecting heart rate, anxiety, etc is a no go for me. These were 12 weeks out Saturday just gone, losing between 2-3lbs a week so a further 22-33lbs to come off from Saturday

 

[luki7788]

I just dont get on with stimulants, anything affecting heart rate, anxiety, etc is a no go for me. These were 12 weeks out Saturday just gone, losing between 2-3lbs a week so a further 22-33lbs to come off from Saturday
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You don't have to use clen if you don't like stimulants. There are other great things that will help you significantly:
- GW
- hgh-frag
- yohimbine
- SLU
- more GH
- L-carnitine inj

There are plenty of options.

 

[Fleezy]

a further 22-33lbs to come off from Saturday
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if THAT needs to love another 33lbs, i need to lose like 70 lmao

 

[Simon90]

You don't have to use clen if you don't like stimulants. There are other great things that will help you significantly:
- GW
- hgh-frag
- yohimbine
- SLU
- more GH
- L-carnitine inj

There are plenty of options.

I can use yohimbine, I really like it. As long as I build the dose gradually, I can use it with no side effects.

I'm going to have a read up on those other things, thank you

 

[Simon90]

if THAT needs to love another 33lbs, i need to lose like 70 lmao

Haha I just wanna be as conditioned as I possibly can!.

I had already underestimated how fat I was when I began this diet, so a lesson learnt for next time! I'd lost 20lbs before I'd even really seen much improvement!, part of that will be water I k ow, dropping out nandrolone etc but still I'd rather be over shooting that come in fat

 

[Sectør]

X2 on what luki said

injectable l carnitine and slu (and gh is always a given)

Great fat burning without the stimulant like effects. I can’t stand Clen either. It’s highly effective, but I hate that shakey, heart palcipation feel and messed up sleep

 

[BLKGUY2006]

Looking great, my man!!!!

 

[TheOtherOne55]

I can use yohimbine, I really like it. As long as I build the dose gradually, I can use it with no side effects.

I'm going to have a read up on those other things, thank you

See there ya go. I know a couple of national competitors (one who used to post here) who couldn’t use clen but could high dose yohimbine. Crazy to me because I’m the opposite. 5mg of yohimbine makes me feel anxious and like I wannanpuke but I have gotten up to 120mcgs of clen several times and feel fine. It’s kinda whatever your body can handle and still allows great fat loss progress.

 

[bbxtreme]

See there ya go. I know a couple of national competitors (one who used to post here) who couldn’t use clen but could high dose yohimbine. Crazy to me because I’m the opposite. 5mg of yohimbine makes me feel anxious and like I wannanpuke but I have gotten up to 120mcgs of clen several times and feel fine. It’s kinda whatever your body can handle and still allows great fat loss progress.

Same. I do terrible with Yohimbine, but can run Clen with little to no sides.

@Simon90 - I personally like my look better on clen. I think those who have issues start too high and don’t use pharma clen. 20mcg of pharma Clen to start usually won’t give issues to most people.

But I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Reta in this thread. With Reta and SLU you can absolutely bypass clen.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

But I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Reta in this thread. With Reta and SLU you can absolutely bypass clen.

This.
Ran SLU during prep which made my clen dosage muuuch lower. Only got up to 60mcg this year.

 

[Simon90]

Cheers guys, really appreciate the responses giving me plenty to read up on here.

 

[Simon90]

This.
Ran SLU during prep which made my clen dosage muuuch lower. Only got up to 60mcg this year.

What dose slu?

I imagine, from what I've quickly read over that the injectable is better than the oral?

I'm seeing doses of around 2-500mcg all the way up to 1500.

At quick glance the health benefits of it look great

 

[TheOtherOne55]

What dose slu?

I imagine, from what I've quickly read over that the injectable is better than the oral?

I'm seeing doses of around 2-500mcg all the way up to 1500.

At quick glance the health benefits of it look great

Haven’t tried the injectable but most people have done the oral and aren’t complaining. Injectable is brand spanking new. I was doing 1000 and loved it. Still runnin it

 

[Simon90]

Haven’t tried the injectable but most people have done the oral and aren’t complaining. Injectable is brand spanking new. I was doing 1000 and loved it. Still runnin it

Thats good to know! I'll get the tablets as they're dosed at 1000.

 

[TheOtherOne55]

Thats good to know! I'll get the tablets as they're dosed at 1000.

Just a warning (or watch out) i feel SLU is heavily dependent on the source. There are just way too many reviews of guys ALSO working up to 1000 and saying they "feel nothing" nor did they have any changes or noticeable results in their physique. While others maybe try another source and it works. I DO think that a diet or prep IS the perfect time to use it though. You're already lean and the first emerging reviews were very smart guys using at the tail end of a diet to get that last bit of fat off. So i think thats the perfect opportunity to see if fat loss remains the same or is turned up a bit. I think lots of guys here were/are getting it from Mike Arnold's researchchem company but i know that shit sells out fast. But i feel like his, modern amino, and parabolic peps are allll trusted sources for it so i would look their first. Just dont want you to try some random chem company and not get to see the full spectrum of results, that's all lol