No clen during prep

[MackCoach]

Clen:
Anti-catabolic
Sheds water in between the skin and muscle

Even 1 single 40 mcg tablet daily 7 to 10 days before you step on stage could get you just a tad bit tighter

 

[AllOkJumpmaster]

Not implying you don't know any, or all of this information with regards to Yohimbine HCL, but

It works best with 2G of L-Tyrosine, and 200mg Caffeine (if you can handle that stim)

0.2mg/Kg of bodyweight is the dose, but if you have trouble with it causing jitters / anxiety, etc. you can start at a very low dose and work up to the necessary dose.

It works best with fasted cardio, any presence of insulin renders it almost useless from a fat mobilization stand point (but the neat part is you will still like shit, lol), so to get the most out of it use it for fasted cardio, and don't consume anything other than water prior to ensure you are keeping insulin at baseline.

It can cause water retention, so pull it at least a week before the show to ensure if it is causing any edema you can flush it out.

You can also leverage a topical beta-Androstenetriol (b-AET) to help lower cortisol when shit starts to get shitty and gritty.

 

[Battousai]

Your right, use DNP instead, way better

 

[Tomgrass]

Depend on the diet
Eca works amazing on low carbs
I was always a huge fan of clen till the last time. My mood was really low so i started to dig. Literally I was fine before clen. I found the study which links clen with depression.

 

[AllOkJumpmaster]

Depend on the diet
Eca works amazing on low carbs
I was always a huge fan of clen till the last time. My mood was really low so i started to dig. Literally I was fine before clen. I found the study which links clen with depression.

it might have been all the sugar you guys have been peddling, as there have been multiple clinical studies linking high sugar diets and depression

 

[luki7788]

Of course you can prepare and get 100% peeled without clen, but for me personally it works so phenomenally that I would regret not using it - especially the injectable version, which in my opinion is twice as effective as the oral version.

 

[b-boy]

it might have been all the sugar you guys have been peddling.

WTF??

 

[Tomgrass]

it might have been all the sugar you guys have been peddling, as there have been multiple clinical studies linking high sugar diets and depression

If anything it is opposite - carbs decrease cortisol - improve mood.

 

[Gunsmith]

I always preferred ECY over clen , its has a much shorter half life so it doesn't build up like clen so if you have that "oh shit thus is to much" moment its only for hrs not days.
That said clen and yohimbine work great together as the yohimbine acts on alpha-2 adrenergic receptor
And clen the beta-2 adrenergic receptor.
I would not say you are leaving anything on the table but if you tolerate it then adding a little in would make fat loss easier.

 

[Simon90]

Of course you can prepare and get 100% peeled without clen, but for me personally it works so phenomenally that I would regret not using it - especially the injectable version, which in my opinion is twice as effective as the oral version.

I may get a vial of the helios, I've seen you mention it in your log. and I could try that when I get to 5-6weeks out.

 

[luki7788]

I may get a vial of the helios, I've seen you mention it in your log. and I could try that when I get to 5-6weeks out.

Helios - I love it lol

 

[Bobik]

Helios - I love it lol

Where do you order it?

 

[luki7788]

Where do you order it?

from your dealer? lol

 

[mimo]

Just to add, SLU is the real deal. I'm very impressed with it

 

[KingOfSushi]

it might have been all the sugar you guys have been peddling, as there have been multiple clinical studies linking high sugar diets and depression

I mean that would make sense as 99.99% people on high sugar diets are probably fat, unmotivated, and have terrible lifestyle and overall diets.

 

[Bobik]

from your dealer? lol

Damn, I didn't know that Helios was on offer

 

[AllOkJumpmaster]

Of course you can prepare and get 100% peeled without clen, but for me personally it works so phenomenally that I would regret not using it - especially the injectable version, which in my opinion is twice as effective as the oral version.

How much of a metabolic rebound do you see when you come off of it? I mean how much of an additional deficit do you feel it gives / how much you have to adust intake when pulling it out?

 

[luki7788]

How much of a metabolic rebound do you see when you come off of it? I mean how much of an additional deficit do you feel it gives / how much you have to adust intake when pulling it out?

Newer see on my body something like „metabolic rebound” I don’t say this not exist but I personally never experienced this