No more C&Bing, started TRT

[bigrobbie]

Hello,
Joined PM like 10 years ago but usually just read threads without posting, most my time spent on another forum but would like opinion of a different forum on this.

To go ahead and address probably one of the first questions I get...Money is an issue so blood work is not done consistently enough at all. However I can tell you as a 15 year AAS user...my HPTA is on strike (ha)...I have all the physical and emotional/mental symptoms of low testosterone/ASIH.

Anyway...

My TRT protocol is:
150mg test E/ week
100mg mast E/ every 2 weeks
( Aromatase control)
1000iu Vitamin D
*50 mg DHEA E.D. (Undecided)

Have Cialis, wondering if I should use 5 mg e.d. or 40 mg prior to sexual intercourse?

Plan to add 1000mg hcg week (divided doses) after first month.

Comments, criticisms? Thanks in advance.

BR

 

[Kaladryn]

I find cialis is effective in much smaller doses and I avoid side effects this way (snot and headache).

 

[bigrobbie]

I find cialis is effective in much smaller doses and I avoid side effects this way (snot and headache).

So no maintenance 5mg e.d. dose and maybe only 20 mg prior to intercourse?

 

[Kaladryn]

So no maintenance 5mg e.d. dose and maybe only 20 mg prior to intercourse?

I've done 2.5mg daily and liked it for the preworkout pump, I've done 5 also but 5 led to headaches eventually, it builds up over time.

For pre intercourse, I usually do 5mg or sometimes 10mg but I sometimes end up with a headache (mild) from 10mg. Just try less and if doesn't work, increase, but 40 would probably be total overkill.

5mg cialis, 10mg viagra is also pretty sweet. I don't have ED issues but no matter how hard you get, you can definitely get harder lol...

 

[szority]

Don't use masteron. Honestly zero reasons to use it, except for OCD fears of losing mass or definition. I used arimidex @ .5mg twice a week, and .25mg twice a week for 10 years and no matter what supplements I used or how healthy my diet was, I couldn't get my HDL above mid 30s. After dropping adex and lowering my testosterone dosage to 100mg once a week I haven't lost much size and I feel better and sleep better than when I was on 300mg a week, 200mg a week, and 140mg a week. Some people obviously need more depending on SHBG, but these guys using proviron and masteron year round and over 150mg a week of testosterone are fooling themselves, you'll just suffer from high H&H and after covid-19(now classified as a vascular disease) who knows what risk for blood clots will be in the future for AAS users now. Lots of guys looking to increase their TRT doses to supraphysiological range and they never are able to fully quit blasting and cruising, it's too hard to resist the temptation. Do TRT dose that puts you in a high normal range and accept the facts the days of B&Cing are over, or don't, it's up to you in the end

 

[Titanstar]

My trt.
30mg test E a day into fat.
No other ancillaries
Never felt better.
Test was 839
Free test was high
Est normal.

Every day keeps everything nice and stable.

Hope your try goes well.

 

[buck]

Once other compounds are added it is no longer TRT it is a cycle as the other drugs are not a replacement for anything.

 

[j4ever]

if you are really trying to nail down a trt protocol which for some can take awhile, i would start with test only and go from there, not even dhea.

 

[slayer37]

if you are really trying to nail down a trt protocol which for some can take awhile, i would start with test only and go from there, not even dhea.

Agreed. Get an absolute baseline with test only for awhile. Then go from there

 

[bodybuilder8806]

My trt.
30mg test E a day into fat.
No other ancillaries
Never felt better.
Test was 839
Free test was high
Est normal.

Every day keeps everything nice and stable.

Hope your try goes well.

This is the biggest factor that a lot of guys never realize. Some guys are very sensitive to hormonal fluctuations, even more so than they know. EOD is a minimum for me even with longer esters, or there's too much volatility in my hormone levels and I never feel very good.

My advice to anyone starting trt or having symptoms while on TRT is to try increasing injection frequency and waiting 5-6 weeks to see how they feel before trying to treat any symptoms, whether it be E2 or otherwise.

 

[Dipp20]

10 to 15mg test enanthate per day for me. No E2 problems. Last bloodwork even showed little too low E2 with 12mg/day so there's no need for masteron or any AI.

 

[Titanstar]

This is the biggest factor that a lot of guys never realize. Some guys are very sensitive to hormonal fluctuations, even more so than they know. EOD is a minimum for me even with longer esters, or there's too much volatility in my hormone levels and I never feel very good.

My advice to anyone starting trt or having symptoms while on TRT is to try increasing injection frequency and waiting 5-6 weeks to see how they feel before trying to treat any symptoms, whether it be E2 or otherwise.

Absolutely spot on