no PCT

[sonnybros]

i hated my first 2 pcts so for my 3rd cycle i did no pct at all just let my test comeback naturally. on my first 2 pcts i felt like death for about 10 days when using nolva and/or clomid... this time my mind was cloudy for the first 2 days and after that i was fine. well, besides my wang not getting hard for about 2 months. anyways im 3 months off cycle and feel like my natural test has almost fully returned. i never had any problems with not wanting to go to the gym unlike when using drugs for pct...just a thought for anyone that may feel depressed and terrible like i did on nolva and/or clomid.

 

[sammy555]

I never used to bother much with pct. Never been a big believer in it or noticed any difference if i do it or not

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[bananas007]

i hated my first 2 pcts so for my 3rd cycle i did no pct at all just let my test comeback naturally. on my first 2 pcts i felt like death for about 10 days when using nolva and/or clomid... this time my mind was cloudy for the first 2 days and after that i was fine. well, besides my wang not getting hard for about 2 months. anyways im 3 months off cycle and feel like my natural test has almost fully returned. i never had any problems with not wanting to go to the gym unlike when using drugs for pct...just a thought for anyone that may feel depressed and terrible like i did on nolva and/or clomid.

Did you still work out during those three months? how much size were you able to keep?? Did you put on any fat?
Thanks

 

[sonnybros]

i worked out the same as normal when not on cycle. i lost some water weight but kept all the muscle mass. i always feel like i see the most growth in the month after finishing a cycle. maybe its all in my head but thats just what ive come to notice

 

[andrew.peplin]

I doubt you kept "all of your muscle mass"

 

[TractionIssues]

Did you get blood tests done before and after to know if your test levels are really back to exactly where they were before?

 

[sonnybros]

i didnt have bloodwork done, and i did taper down to only 200mgs a week of test e for the last month before quitting. im only posting this because every pct drug i ever took made me so depressed for a couple weeks that i wouldnt want to wake up or do anything. it was the gayest feeling ever and i just want others to know that u can taper down and not feel awful and shoutout to dude that says "i doubt u kept all your muscle mass" without knowing me or anything. always love people that disagree just for the hell of it

 

[Kaladryn]

There is no such thing as "restarting" the HPGA. The ONLY purpose to PCT is to control E2 as T drops faster than E2. PCT will have NO EFFECT on your long term test levels or how well you maintain gains, it will also not effect how fast your test levels recover.

This argument goes back to misc.fitness.weights days with Patrick Arnold and Dan Duchaine.