Nolvadex for HDL

[hompie]

Hey Guys,

If I want to take nolvadex for improving HDL how should I cycle this?
Or should I take it non stop?
Im only on HRT 200mg a week (2x100)
Estrogen perfectly in check.
Thanks..........

 

[GoneForever]

I would just take 10mg ED until you can get your HDL in check naturally with healthy fats,etc.. IMO harly anyone on aas or even HRT will have a good hdl.

 

[hompie]

Anybody else? Phil?

 

[swole79]

bump for more info on controling HDL

 

[hompie]

Bump for Phil, please chim in..........

 

[muscledoc1]

I didnt know that there is a connection between HDL and anti-estrogens.

 

[hompie]

I didnt know that there is a connection between HDL and anti-estrogens.

Only Nolvadex does this.
Most anti e's fuck up your lipid profile.

 

[LATS]

YES..NOLVA HAS A POSITIVE IMPACT ON HDL.. EVEN AT LOW DOSE.. 10MGS A DAY WILL SUFFICE..

 

[Conan21]

BUT.......

Aren't there side effects with nolvadex? I thought I saw some articles posted on here that Nolva weakens the eleasticity of veins and arteries?

I would like to hear more replies on this.

I have Read that Lowering Insulin (decreasing Carb intake) will Help Your Triglyceride HDL ratio by decreasing the amount of bad Eicosanoids in the Blood stream.

Combining the above guidelines with High doses of Fish Oil is supposed to help decrease arachidonic acid and thus bad Eicosanoids even more thus improving Trig/HDL to a further degree.

Here is a short little article touching on some of these issues.

http://www.cbn.com/health/naturalhealth/drsears_arachidonicacid.aspx

With That said, I take 6 grams of fishoil ED and would still like to improve my triglyceride/HDL ratio....

I was taking Vitamin World Brand Fish Oil but have recently switched to Kirkland brand from Costco.

From what I read, There are alot of "not so good" Fish Oil Supplements on the market. Some of which can actually do more harm than good considering the contaminants/mercury/etc in them. This might be one supplement where it might be worthe to spend the extra cash and buy the Legit Pharm grade (IFOS approved) brands.

 

[LATS]

CONAN YOU ARE RIGHT.. but, those sides are usually with much higher dosages...some studies have suggested 40 mgs a day for prolonged periods being involved with sides..

 

[Conan21]

LATS

CONAN YOU ARE RIGHT.. but, those sides are usually with much higher dosages...some studies have suggested 40 mgs a day for prolonged periods being involved with sides..

In your opinion, is this a safe supplement to use on HRT regiment. Alot of guys on here stay on for long periods of time and then cruise on lower dosages while others just stay on lower HRT dosages.

Do you think it is safe to use low dosages of Nolva for PROLONGED periods of time. Do you know people who do this?

 

[LATS]

conan, i have known many that have been on lower dosages of nolva for long periods.. now, that being said, on cruising periods i would not recommend nolva . at least not over the standard fish oils, niacin ect.. but, nolva does work on hdl well.. but again, i would only use in the defensive arsenal when using higher end dosages of gear.. not hrt ..

 

[machola]

Aren't there side effects with nolvadex?

yes like most drugs it has the potential for adverse reactions.

Uterine malignancies consist of both endometrial adenocarcinoma (incidence rate per 1,000 women-years of 2.20 for NOLVADEX vs 0.71 for placebo) and uterine sarcoma (incidence rate per 1,000 women-years of 0.17 for NOLVADEX vs 0.4 for placebo)*. For stroke, the incidence rate per 1,000 women-years was 1.43 for NOLVADEX vs 1.00 for placebo**. For pulmonary embolism, the incidence rate per 1,000 women-years was 0.75 for NOLVADEX versus 0.25 for placebo

obviously men won't get uterine malignancies but if its a carcinogen to women i'm sure its not great for us... that's a 43% increased risk of stroke. 200% increased risk of pulmonary embolism... its one thing for some guys to take it for a few weeks for pct but a long-term self medicated cholesterol control... i don't know. doesn't sound smart to me. see a doctor. my two cents

http://www.rxlist.com/nolvadex-drug.htm

 

[GoneForever]

I too have noticed an increase in HDL and drop in LDL when on very very low carbs. Its too bad nolva has sides. It was pretty commonly prescribed with HRT patients before many docs switched to adex. Im sure a low dose like 10mg wont do much harm long term, but i'd try and get the lipids in check with other supps, and like Lats said, only use during a cycle.

 

[hompie]

I too have noticed an increase in HDL and drop in LDL when on very very low carbs. Its too bad nolva has sides. It was pretty commonly prescribed with HRT patients before many docs switched to adex. Im sure a low dose like 10mg wont do much harm long term, but i'd try and get the lipids in check with other supps, and like Lats said, only use during a cycle.

But what if HDL still sucks with only doing HRT ?

 

[GoneForever]

But what if HDL still sucks with only doing HRT ?

Gotta keep trying with diet. If all else fails maybe see a dr. to use some lipid meds.

 

[hompie]

Gotta keep trying with diet. If all else fails maybe see a dr. to use some lipid meds.

I have been on Lipitor, but the sides are worse then Nolvadex if you read the internet. So I stopped taking them. I do all the other stuff Fishoil Niacin enz.
My HDL is not THAT bad but I wanna make it better.
I remember Phil talking about Nolva but I dont know how to take it when on HRT.
Havent been on a cycle for more then 1 1/2 years.