Nolvadex-only PCT

strongman456 · Jul 5, 2014

I figured I would post this in the beginners section because it is a noob ass question.

I have 5 cycles under my belt, consisting of basic 12 weeks of test and an oral. I ran deca once but usually just test and an oral.

I have not ran anything in years now because I had non-lifting related goals. I have recently had bloodwork done and the doctor told me I have high test.

My PCT has always been something like Nolva 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 50/50/25/25.

The only time I ever had recovery issues was when I took the deca, and i had to order some hcg and it took quite a while to feel 'normal' again. This was several years ago.

I currently don't have access to Clomid but can get plenty of nolva. I wanted to see If I could do fine w/ just the nolva, and what dose would be best.

The cycle plan is very basic.
Week 1-12 Test Enanthate or Cyp @ 600mg, take a bit of nolvadex for estrogen

PCT - Nolvadex for weeks 14-18

I respect the advise from this forum very much and if I am advised not to run the cycle without clomid or torem then I will wait until I can find some.

Thanks,

kubes · Jul 11, 2014

Your rough recovery likely was not from the clomid but from the deca. Did you run the deca at least one week longer than the test? Deca is a long ester and takes longer to clear than test e or c. Running hcg during your cycle will maintain some testicular function as well. 200-250 iu is usually enough to maintain some testicular function during the administration of exogenous androgens

collinb · Jul 11, 2014

Well nolva will not activate anything or kickstart your test production like Clomid will, if you can get HCG grab it and run it the last week of your cycle and the following 2 weeks at 500-1000iu every other day to get your testes up to a functional size.

The nolva wont do much for recovery, but it will save you from bitch tits.