Non stop PIP

[DirtyDan9]

Okay....but what if you tried a different site and didn't have PIP? Eliminating variables.....

I get pip no matter the site

 

[LK3]

ive had a few ppl over the years who have an alergy to bb.
some things can be made without bb.
i used to like gso but found out first hand that some ppl (more common here then other oils ) have an alergic reaction to it.
i have found over the years veg based mct oil really to be the best in terms of ppl reacting well to it and ease of use.
safflower oil is also a good choice.
in my personal use i have found a rare occasion or two where i just needed a break from ed jabs. everything was ouchy even .10cc that i wasnt feeling before, same btl and all. a day off and maybe a week or two with fewer admins and everything went back to normal.

take a day or two off, just use your trt or try some gear that you know has no bb.
good luck

 

[DirtyDan9]

ive had a few ppl over the years who have an alergy to bb.
some things can be made without bb.
i used to like gso but found out first hand that some ppl (more common here then other oils ) have an alergic reaction to it.
i have found over the years veg based mct oil really to be the best in terms of ppl reacting well to it and ease of use.
safflower oil is also a good choice.
in my personal use i have found a rare occasion or two where i just needed a break from ed jabs. everything was ouchy even .10cc that i wasnt feeling before, same btl and all. a day off and maybe a week or two with fewer admins and everything went back to normal.

take a day or two off, just use your trt or try some gear that you know has no bb.
good luck

Any recommendations for bb free gear? I feel like almost everyone uses bb/ba in their gear

 

[silvaback]

Any recommendations for bb free gear? I feel like almost everyone uses bb/ba in their gear

gonna have to home brew your own for that no ugl sells that

bb is needed to prevent bacteria growth in oil

 

[LK3]

Any recommendations for bb free gear? I feel like almost everyone uses bb/ba in their gear

it isnt something thats usually listed for the most part.
i have a 2 guys who do special order stuff a cpl times a year.

 

[LK3]

gonna have to home brew your own for that no ugl sells that

bb is needed to prevent bacteria growth in oil

not exactly true. lol
ba is used to ensure sterility.
bb is a solvent.

 

[DirtyDan9]

not exactly true. lol
ba is used to ensure sterility.
bb is a solvent.

Yeah I just looked at one of my script bottles and it only lists ba in cso

 

[silvaback]

not exactly true. lol
ba is used to ensure sterility.
bb is a solvent.

yeah i meant ba lol

 

[Hbone]

not exactly true. lol
ba is used to ensure sterility.
bb is a solvent.

Lk dead on as usual !

 

[Hbone]

??? is the PIP on exotics ? TEST E?

 

[LK3]

yeah i meant ba lol

and there are ug's that have bb free gear. lol

 

[mexbeast]

and there are ug's that have bb free gear. lol

Yes, and of great quality i may say! The deca is amazing

 

[megapro]

if you dont get pip from pharmagrade stuff then there is two options eather just use pharma grade and pay more or try to see what carrier oil they using and try the same with ugs see if it helps.

 

[johnjuanb1]

Mct oil is the worse shit ever . Every shot I’ve took that has Mct oil in it is lumps and pain for days . Switched to a source that uses GSO and literally get no lump or pain no matter what

It depend on your body. Some people are allergic to MCT oil. There are sponsors who use cotton seed oil. It’s thick so it’s not popular. GSO was real popular until word got out that it has a tendency to go rancid. That’s when everyone switched to MCT oil.
I love MCT oil because I can pin it through a 31 gauge 5/8” slin pin if I want to. I usually use a 27 gauge slin pin though.
Find what works for you and stick with it.

 

[hotrod]

Funny been using MCT for 20 years and never had a complaint, but everyone is different i guess, EO is absolutely the worst allergic reaction in my experience

 

[Massive G]

ive had a few ppl over the years who have an alergy to bb.
some things can be made without bb.
i used to like gso but found out first hand that some ppl (more common here then other oils ) have an alergic reaction to it.
i have found over the years veg based mct oil really to be the best in terms of ppl reacting well to it and ease of use.
safflower oil is also a good choice.
in my personal use i have found a rare occasion or two where i just needed a break from ed jabs. everything was ouchy even .10cc that i wasnt feeling before, same btl and all. a day off and maybe a week or two with fewer admins and everything went back to normal.

take a day or two off, just use your trt or try some gear that you know has no bb.
good luck

I don't have an allergy but the standard formulation of 20% makes me sick so to speak. The worst gear I ever used besides Quality Vet Enanthate was Sandoz Testosterone Cypionate scripted from the pharm. Had to be a formulation mistake on the manufacturer for that batch. I returned it to the pharm and got a different batch as I was riddled with solvent flu achy breaky fever etc. My favorite carrier oil is castor oil greater solubility and well tolerated organic oil. Second favorite is safflower. Arachis oil is good as well as it is used in Testoviron and Sustanon amps. Many sources overuse BB as a crutch and a lot use EO as a cheat code.
Nasty stuff for some.

 

[IFBBProDomCardone]

I have now had 2 clients like this...one who is high level, used to have no issues at all, than all of a sudden it came on. Peptides, gear...switched to cottonseed and had no issues with that. Was using MCT oil prior, had no issues but as I said became an issue out of no where

Another guy who is lifestyle (non competitor), tells me a month ago if its normal his shots hurt and lump for weeks after. GH, peptides, gear..I said how long has this been going on for? he said for YEARS His prior coach told him it was normal so he did not say anything to me

I initially thought carrier oil or BB, but if it happens with everything im thinking it is immune related somewhere potentially. Still deep diving into this. Could be allergic reaction to MCT and/or BB that compounds over time and possibly all injections become an issue as the constant exposure drives up an immune response? Not 100% sure yet...It was taught to me a while back by someone who was very well educated in biology and pharmacology that most of the time PIP, is not always compound related

MCT oil is touted as one of the best for injections but this does not mean its for everyone. UGLs used to all be pretty much GSO, but MCT oil is much easier for labs to work with especially when creating high volumes due to the viscosity of it. GSO is quite thick

I see someone mentioned Vicon. It says GSO but it is not, its MCT oil. I had one of these guys try a Vicon test for shits and giggles, same thing. Found out it was MCT.....

 

[Massive G]

I have now had 2 clients like this...one who is high level, used to have no issues at all, than all of a sudden it came on. Peptides, gear...switched to cottonseed and had no issues with that. Was using MCT oil prior, had no issues but as I said became an issue out of no where

Another guy who is lifestyle (non competitor), tells me a month ago if its normal his shots hurt and lump for weeks after. GH, peptides, gear..I said how long has this been going on for? he said for YEARS His prior coach told him it was normal so he did not say anything to me

I initially thought carrier oil or BB, but if it happens with everything im thinking it is immune related somewhere potentially. Still deep diving into this. Could be allergic reaction to MCT and/or BB that compounds over time and possibly all injections become an issue as the constant exposure drives up an immune response? Not 100% sure yet...It was taught to me a while back by someone who was very well educated in biology and pharmacology that most of the time PIP, is not always compound related

MCT oil is touted as one of the best for injections but this does not mean its for everyone. UGLs used to all be pretty much GSO, but MCT oil is much easier for labs to work with especially when creating high volumes due to the viscosity of it. GSO is quite thick

I see someone mentioned Vicon. It says GSO but it is not, its MCT oil. I had one of these guys try a Vicon test for shits and giggles, same thing. Found out it was MCT.....

I wonder if jano could test for composition of gear solvent and carrier oils. A lot of sources sneak a pinch or more of EO in with mct.
Had a source years ago that changed formula to make thinner and higher dose. Shit would knot me up and cause inflammation. Told me he added a kiss of EO ..I asked what a kiss was and he told me 30%.

 

[Alzadosghost]

I wonder if jano could test for composition of gear solvent and carrier oils. A lot of sources sneak a pinch or more of EO in with mct.
Had a source years ago that changed formula to make thinner and higher dose. Shit would knot me up and cause inflammation. Told me he added a kiss of EO ..I asked what a kiss was and he told me 30%.

Now that EO hurt me. And after seeing the rubber stopper melting into the oil…..obviously not a good choice using it, it really helps hold higher mg gear in suspension. But that shit is gross. No need for high mg gear anyway. Stuffs retarded.

 

[LK3]

I have now had 2 clients like this...one who is high level, used to have no issues at all, than all of a sudden it came on. Peptides, gear...switched to cottonseed and had no issues with that. Was using MCT oil prior, had no issues but as I said became an issue out of no where

Another guy who is lifestyle (non competitor), tells me a month ago if its normal his shots hurt and lump for weeks after. GH, peptides, gear..I said how long has this been going on for? he said for YEARS His prior coach told him it was normal so he did not say anything to me

I initially thought carrier oil or BB, but if it happens with everything im thinking it is immune related somewhere potentially. Still deep diving into this. Could be allergic reaction to MCT and/or BB that compounds over time and possibly all injections become an issue as the constant exposure drives up an immune response? Not 100% sure yet...It was taught to me a while back by someone who was very well educated in biology and pharmacology that most of the time PIP, is not always compound related

MCT oil is touted as one of the best for injections but this does not mean its for everyone. UGLs used to all be pretty much GSO, but MCT oil is much easier for labs to work with especially when creating high volumes due to the viscosity of it. GSO is quite thick

I see someone mentioned Vicon. It says GSO but it is not, its MCT oil. I had one of these guys try a Vicon test for shits and giggles, same thing. Found out it was MCT.....

if it happens with oil and water could it just be user error? meaning he is pushing things in too fast?

it takes some time to learn how to do injections well.

pharma compounds wont have mct oil so would be easy to check.

if water based things also cause issues its probably not bb.

i have noticed shots hurt more and hang out longer if im using drugs that can cause vasoconstriction. any chance he is taking something that could contribute?

poor health or autoimmune disorder?