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Hey y'all. Great board. I may have been on it many years ago as I certainly remember chatting to Big A way back in the day.
Here is my plan in point form. Hopefully i researched it as well as I thought I have
I am not delusional about competing, but ultimatly want more more muscle mass and to not be above 10% whenever possible given my joints due to foolishness in my younger years
I am happy to err on the side of less is more with substances and make sure diet and training are 100% perfect. If I have to do a bigger cycle next time, then so be it.
everything below is adaptable except my weight loss goal which I WILL ACHIEVE OR EXCEED, I am going to react to my body and do what’s best for it
cutting cycle - first cycle in about 10-12 years. a lot of time out following dislocations/knee injuries..been making solid progress with solid diet and training ...even if not very-big@7% like when i was in my early20s (yeah...i REALLY let myself go for 8ish years)
i am now 210 pounds 17-18%
Aim to lose min 20 pounds of fat. At least hold muscle mass...I respond very well to training and in the past to steroids, so maybe I can even gainmuscle - but we will see.
diet will be tight and 99.9% clean, no more than 1 semi-cheat meal a week
200-220gm protein - wide variety of sources, 60 good fats, good carbs ~120 on non-lifting days, 180 on lifting days
cardio will be about 3 hours a week, walk/jog/swim/cycle (will lift it if goal is not coming as it should)
lift 3/4 times a week - each muscle group hit once a week
water : more than a gallon a day
supps = usual protein, glutamine, bcaa, multi, milk thistle (should i get more for liver support?)
I know I am gyno prone, thus running Arimidex throughout, hopefully at 25mgED rather than 50mgED, but will have stock on hand in case. And sust rather than a shorter living test, because its available to me legally.
I welcome your constructive criticism and thoughts
(especially on the yes/no of hcg...i know my doc used to always prescribe after cycles and i always had success coming back - but then again I also had a great deca only cycle with no negative sides back in the day, so I know we are all different);
------------------------------------sust----winny mg---arimidex mg----clen @20mg tabs--------
day 1----wk 1--------sunday----------------50--------25----------------
day 2-----------------monday-----250--------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 3----------------tuesday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 4--------------wednesday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 5---------------thursday-----250--------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 6----------------friday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 7----------------saturday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 8----wk 2--------sunday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 9-----------------monday-----250--------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 10----------------tuesday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 11--------------wednesday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 12---------------thursday----250--------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 13----------------friday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 14----------------saturday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 15----wk 3--------sunday----------------40--------25 or 50--------1 or 2
day 16-----------------monday----250--------40--------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 17----------------tuesday---------------40--------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 18--------------wednesday----------------40--------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 19---------------thursday----250--------40--------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 20----------------friday----------------40--------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 21----------------saturday--------------40--------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 22wk 4-------------sunday----------------40--------25 or 50--------"3 4 or 5
day 23-----------------monday----250--------40--------25 or 50--------"3 4 or 5
day 24----------------tuesday----------------20--------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 25--------------wednesday------------------------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 26---------------thursday----250----------------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 27----------------friday---------------------------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 28----------------saturday------------------------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 29----wk 5--------sunday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 30-----------------monday----250----------------25 or 50----------------
day 31----------------tuesday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 32--------------wednesday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 33---------------thursday----250----------------25 or 50----------------
day 34----------------friday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 35----------------saturday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 36----wk 6--------sunday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 37-----------------monday----250----------------25 or 50----------------
day 38----------------tuesday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 39--------------wednesday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 40---------------thursday----250----------------25 or 50----------------
day 41----------------friday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 42----------------saturday------------------------25 or 50--------clen @20mg each
day 43----wk 7--------sunday----------------maybe-----25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 44-----------------monday----250--IF LIVER GOOD---25 or 50-------2 or 3
day 45----------------tuesday-----------more winny-----25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 46--------------wednesday---------------40--------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 47---------------thursday----250--------40--------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 48----------------friday----------------40--------25 or 50--------3,4 or 5
day 49----------------saturday--------------40--------25 or 50--------3, 4 or 5
day 50----wk 8--------sunday----------------40--------25 or 50--------3,4 or 5
day 51-----------------monday----250-------40--------25 or 50--------3,4 or 5
day 52----------------tuesday---------------40--------25 or 50--------3,4 or 5
day 53--------------wednesday---------------40--------25 or 50--------3,4 or 5
day 54---------------thursday----250-------50--------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 55----------------friday----------------50--------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 56----------------saturday---------------50--------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 57----wk 9--------sunday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 58-----------------monday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 59----------------tuesday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 60--------------wednesday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 61---------------thursday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 62----------------friday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 63----------------saturday---------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 71----wk 10--------sunday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 72-----------------monday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 73----------------tuesday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 74--------------wednesday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 75---------------thursday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 76----------------friday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 77----------------saturday-NOLVAmg-----aromasin---25 or 50----------------HCG iu - maybe
day 78----wk 11--------sunday--------20--------20-----25 or 50-------------------1000
day 79-----------------monday--------20--------20------------------------
day 80----------------tuesday--------20--------20---------------------------------1000
day 81--------------wednesday--------20--------20------------------------
day 82---------------thursday--------20--------20---------------------------------1000
day 83----------------friday--------20--------20------------------------
day 84----------------saturday-------20--------20----------------clen @20mg------1000
day 85----wk 12--------sunday--------20--------20----------------2 or 3--------
day 86-----------------monday--------20--------20----------------2 or 3-----------1000
day 87----------------tuesday--------20--------20----------------3 or 4--------
day 88--------------wednesday--------20--------20----------------3 or 4-----------1000
day 89---------------thursday--------20--------20----------------3 or 4--------
day 90----------------friday--------20--------20----------------3,4 or 5---------1000
day 91----------------saturday-------20--------20---------------3,4 or 5---------
day 92----wk 13--------sunday--------20--------20---------------3,4 or 5/6-------1000
day 93-----------------monday--------20--------20---------------3,4 or 5/6---------
day 94----------------tuesday--------20--------20---------------3,4 or 5/6-------1000
day 95--------------wednesday--------20--------20---------------3, or 5/6--------
day 96---------------thursday--------20--------20---------------3,4 or 5/6-------500
day 97----------------friday--------20--------20----------------3 or 4--------
day 98----------------saturday------20--------20----------------3 or 4--------
day 99----wk 14--------sunday--------20--------
day 100-----------------monday-------20--------
day 101----------------tuesday-------20--------
day 102--------------wednesday-------20--------
day 103---------------thursda--------20--------
day 104----------------friday--------20--------
day 105----------------saturday-------20--------
day 106----wk 15--------sunday--------20--------
day 107-----------------monday--------20--------
day 108----------------tuesday--------20--------
day 109--------------wednesday--------20--------
day 110---------------thursday--------20--------
day 111----------------friday--------20--------
day 112----------------saturday--------20--------
day 113----wk 16--------sunday--------20--------
day 114-----------------monday--------20--------
day 115----------------tuesday--------20--------
day 116--------------wednesday--------20--------
day 117---------------thursday--------20--------
day 118----------------friday--------20--------
day 119----------------saturday--------20--------
Here is my plan in point form. Hopefully i researched it as well as I thought I have
I am not delusional about competing, but ultimatly want more more muscle mass and to not be above 10% whenever possible given my joints due to foolishness in my younger years
I am happy to err on the side of less is more with substances and make sure diet and training are 100% perfect. If I have to do a bigger cycle next time, then so be it.
everything below is adaptable except my weight loss goal which I WILL ACHIEVE OR EXCEED, I am going to react to my body and do what’s best for it
cutting cycle - first cycle in about 10-12 years. a lot of time out following dislocations/knee injuries..been making solid progress with solid diet and training ...even if not very-big@7% like when i was in my early20s (yeah...i REALLY let myself go for 8ish years)
i am now 210 pounds 17-18%
Aim to lose min 20 pounds of fat. At least hold muscle mass...I respond very well to training and in the past to steroids, so maybe I can even gainmuscle - but we will see.
diet will be tight and 99.9% clean, no more than 1 semi-cheat meal a week
200-220gm protein - wide variety of sources, 60 good fats, good carbs ~120 on non-lifting days, 180 on lifting days
cardio will be about 3 hours a week, walk/jog/swim/cycle (will lift it if goal is not coming as it should)
lift 3/4 times a week - each muscle group hit once a week
water : more than a gallon a day
supps = usual protein, glutamine, bcaa, multi, milk thistle (should i get more for liver support?)
I know I am gyno prone, thus running Arimidex throughout, hopefully at 25mgED rather than 50mgED, but will have stock on hand in case. And sust rather than a shorter living test, because its available to me legally.
I welcome your constructive criticism and thoughts
(especially on the yes/no of hcg...i know my doc used to always prescribe after cycles and i always had success coming back - but then again I also had a great deca only cycle with no negative sides back in the day, so I know we are all different);
------------------------------------sust----winny mg---arimidex mg----clen @20mg tabs--------
day 1----wk 1--------sunday----------------50--------25----------------
day 2-----------------monday-----250--------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 3----------------tuesday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 4--------------wednesday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 5---------------thursday-----250--------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 6----------------friday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 7----------------saturday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 8----wk 2--------sunday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 9-----------------monday-----250--------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 10----------------tuesday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 11--------------wednesday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 12---------------thursday----250--------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 13----------------friday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 14----------------saturday----------------40--------25 or 50----------------
day 15----wk 3--------sunday----------------40--------25 or 50--------1 or 2
day 16-----------------monday----250--------40--------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 17----------------tuesday---------------40--------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 18--------------wednesday----------------40--------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 19---------------thursday----250--------40--------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 20----------------friday----------------40--------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 21----------------saturday--------------40--------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 22wk 4-------------sunday----------------40--------25 or 50--------"3 4 or 5
day 23-----------------monday----250--------40--------25 or 50--------"3 4 or 5
day 24----------------tuesday----------------20--------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 25--------------wednesday------------------------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 26---------------thursday----250----------------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 27----------------friday---------------------------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 28----------------saturday------------------------25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 29----wk 5--------sunday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 30-----------------monday----250----------------25 or 50----------------
day 31----------------tuesday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 32--------------wednesday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 33---------------thursday----250----------------25 or 50----------------
day 34----------------friday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 35----------------saturday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 36----wk 6--------sunday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 37-----------------monday----250----------------25 or 50----------------
day 38----------------tuesday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 39--------------wednesday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 40---------------thursday----250----------------25 or 50----------------
day 41----------------friday------------------------25 or 50----------------
day 42----------------saturday------------------------25 or 50--------clen @20mg each
day 43----wk 7--------sunday----------------maybe-----25 or 50--------2 or 3
day 44-----------------monday----250--IF LIVER GOOD---25 or 50-------2 or 3
day 45----------------tuesday-----------more winny-----25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 46--------------wednesday---------------40--------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 47---------------thursday----250--------40--------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 48----------------friday----------------40--------25 or 50--------3,4 or 5
day 49----------------saturday--------------40--------25 or 50--------3, 4 or 5
day 50----wk 8--------sunday----------------40--------25 or 50--------3,4 or 5
day 51-----------------monday----250-------40--------25 or 50--------3,4 or 5
day 52----------------tuesday---------------40--------25 or 50--------3,4 or 5
day 53--------------wednesday---------------40--------25 or 50--------3,4 or 5
day 54---------------thursday----250-------50--------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 55----------------friday----------------50--------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 56----------------saturday---------------50--------25 or 50--------3 or 4
day 57----wk 9--------sunday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 58-----------------monday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 59----------------tuesday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 60--------------wednesday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 61---------------thursday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 62----------------friday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 63----------------saturday---------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 71----wk 10--------sunday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 72-----------------monday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 73----------------tuesday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 74--------------wednesday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 75---------------thursday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 76----------------friday----------------50--------25 or 50----------------
day 77----------------saturday-NOLVAmg-----aromasin---25 or 50----------------HCG iu - maybe
day 78----wk 11--------sunday--------20--------20-----25 or 50-------------------1000
day 79-----------------monday--------20--------20------------------------
day 80----------------tuesday--------20--------20---------------------------------1000
day 81--------------wednesday--------20--------20------------------------
day 82---------------thursday--------20--------20---------------------------------1000
day 83----------------friday--------20--------20------------------------
day 84----------------saturday-------20--------20----------------clen @20mg------1000
day 85----wk 12--------sunday--------20--------20----------------2 or 3--------
day 86-----------------monday--------20--------20----------------2 or 3-----------1000
day 87----------------tuesday--------20--------20----------------3 or 4--------
day 88--------------wednesday--------20--------20----------------3 or 4-----------1000
day 89---------------thursday--------20--------20----------------3 or 4--------
day 90----------------friday--------20--------20----------------3,4 or 5---------1000
day 91----------------saturday-------20--------20---------------3,4 or 5---------
day 92----wk 13--------sunday--------20--------20---------------3,4 or 5/6-------1000
day 93-----------------monday--------20--------20---------------3,4 or 5/6---------
day 94----------------tuesday--------20--------20---------------3,4 or 5/6-------1000
day 95--------------wednesday--------20--------20---------------3, or 5/6--------
day 96---------------thursday--------20--------20---------------3,4 or 5/6-------500
day 97----------------friday--------20--------20----------------3 or 4--------
day 98----------------saturday------20--------20----------------3 or 4--------
day 99----wk 14--------sunday--------20--------
day 100-----------------monday-------20--------
day 101----------------tuesday-------20--------
day 102--------------wednesday-------20--------
day 103---------------thursda--------20--------
day 104----------------friday--------20--------
day 105----------------saturday-------20--------
day 106----wk 15--------sunday--------20--------
day 107-----------------monday--------20--------
day 108----------------tuesday--------20--------
day 109--------------wednesday--------20--------
day 110---------------thursday--------20--------
day 111----------------friday--------20--------
day 112----------------saturday--------20--------
day 113----wk 16--------sunday--------20--------
day 114-----------------monday--------20--------
day 115----------------tuesday--------20--------
day 116--------------wednesday--------20--------
day 117---------------thursday--------20--------
day 118----------------friday--------20--------
day 119----------------saturday--------20--------
