NPP for the first time - What to look for?

[Kauto_star]

Good evening.

I am planning my next cycle for in about 1-2 months time. I have always been quite conservative with my cycles as I suffer from MPB so run Finasteride, so most of my cycles to date have been Test at 400mg per week and 80mg or 100mg or Var each day.

I have had blood work done following last cycle, everything looks ok apart form ALT which was around 100, which I know is high. I have had an ultrasound on my liver and thankfully all is fine. I did have high blood pressure on my last cycle but now that is under control and I have medication on hand, so blood pressure is stable around 125/70.

I want to run NPP. I have chosen NPP over Deca as I will be using Finasteride or Dutasteride on cycle, and if it results in increased hair loss, I will drop the NPP straight away.

My plan is to run 350mg Test E, with 300mg NPP per week. Are there certain things which you have noticed from NPP regarding blood panel or blood pressure, or other?

Thanks!

 

[workingclass]

I would be careful and watch out for an increase in strength lol

I obviously get more wet because I run it during a growth phase and food is also up
I check my bp 3x a week and have never noticed an increase whenever I've run npp
my bloods have always been fine (with npp) and I would run cycles similar to yours
I've also never noticed a dramatic increase in hair loss and I am prone to hair loss so I run 1mg/day finn and 2.5mg/day oral minoxidil

 

[TheOtherOne55]

I'm on 3g right now, 700mg of it being NPP. Bloodwork is completely fine.
Be prepared to grow. Don't over think it. Great fullness, less water than Deca. You'll get strong.

 

[Kauto_star]

Thanks to you both that sounds good! Some nice size and strength gains are welcome side effects

Thanks for coming back to me.

 

[kadafi2]

Be careful with prolactin. NPP can raise it, and you'll feel unwell mentally and physically. Last winter, I also took NPP for the first time, of course with testosterone, and at one point, I experienced severe lethargy. Masteron at a low dose didn't just help me feel good, but allowed me to function on a daily basis. Without it, it would be difficult.

Some people also feel lethargic despite low prolactin levels while taking NPP. Some people feel great. Try it and see how you react to this steroid.

Oh, I almost forgot, I personally felt better taking injections daily rather than every other day. But for starters, try a normal E2D dosage.
And as others have said, you'll definitely notice that you're stronger, but how much mass you gain depends entirely on what you eat. It's obvious, but it's always worth remembering. Good luck with your growth!

 

[Bleed]

Personal anecdote, doesnt matter the compound, ED injects are something I always do. I do feel much better overall.

Be careful with prolactin. NPP can raise it, and you'll feel unwell mentally and physically. Last winter, I also took NPP for the first time, of course with testosterone, and at one point, I experienced severe lethargy. Masteron at a low dose didn't just help me feel good, but allowed me to function on a daily basis. Without it, it would be difficult.

Some people also feel lethargic despite low prolactin levels while taking NPP. Some people feel great. Try it and see how you react to this steroid.

Oh, I almost forgot, I personally felt better taking injections daily rather than every other day. But for starters, try a normal E2D dosage.
And as others have said, you'll definitely notice that you're stronger, but how much mass you gain depends entirely on what you eat. It's obvious, but it's always worth remembering. Good luck with your growth!

 

[Kauto_star]

Be careful with prolactin. NPP can raise it, and you'll feel unwell mentally and physically. Last winter, I also took NPP for the first time, of course with testosterone, and at one point, I experienced severe lethargy. Masteron at a low dose didn't just help me feel good, but allowed me to function on a daily basis. Without it, it would be difficult.

Some people also feel lethargic despite low prolactin levels while taking NPP. Some people feel great. Try it and see how you react to this steroid.

Oh, I almost forgot, I personally felt better taking injections daily rather than every other day. But for starters, try a normal E2D dosage.
And as others have said, you'll definitely notice that you're stronger, but how much mass you gain depends entirely on what you eat. It's obvious, but it's always worth remembering. Good luck with your growth!

Personal anecdote, doesnt matter the compound, ED injects are something I always do. I do feel much better overall.

Thank you to both of you for your replies!

kadafi2, I'll grab some Caber just incase of Prolactin. Is the unwell feeling a good indicator of raised Prolactin or is there something else I should be mindful of please? Thank you for your recommendation regarding E2D doses too.

 

[specter]

Be careful with prolactin. NPP can raise it, and you'll feel unwell mentally and physically. Last winter, I also took NPP for the first time, of course with testosterone, and at one point, I experienced severe lethargy. Masteron at a low dose didn't just help me feel good, but allowed me to function on a daily basis. Without it, it would be difficult.

Some people also feel lethargic despite low prolactin levels while taking NPP. Some people feel great. Try it and see how you react to this steroid.

Oh, I almost forgot, I personally felt better taking injections daily rather than every other day. But for starters, try a normal E2D dosage.
And as others have said, you'll definitely notice that you're stronger, but how much mass you gain depends entirely on what you eat. It's obvious, but it's always worth remembering. Good luck with your growth!

NPP itself doesnt raise prolactin, if estrogen isnt controlled prolactin can go up, if estrogen is controlled prolactin doesnt go up.

 

[madg]

Epic fullness , massive pump , strength increase

Fuck i love nandrolone

 

[Massive G]

Wish I could take NPP. Tried it twice each time puffy sore nips from some one who never has estrogen sides gyno puffy nips etc.. Either way nandralones are the best mass builder with test . Back in the day 400 mg deca plus 800 mg test caused enormous strength and size gains. Always took double test over deca dose and no sexual sides ever.

 

[luki7788]

Wish I could take NPP. Tried it twice each time puffy sore nips from some one who never has estrogen sides gyno puffy nips etc.. Either way nandralones are the best mass builder with test . Back in the day 400 mg deca plus 800 mg test caused enormous strength and size gains. Always took double test over deca dose and no sexual sides ever.

I'm the same way now - anything over 100mg of nandrolone makes me swell up like a bitch and my skin gets thick lol to think that back then 1000mg of deca + 1500mg of test was my staple in the offseason lol

 

[kadafi2]

@specter Thanks for correcting me. I'd read somewhere on professionalmuscle about the mechanism of prolactin increase due to high estrogen levels. I admit I was biased here, as high estrogen doesn't It gives me side effects. A slightly watery appearance is the only thing I notice. That's why I haven't used any AIs. But high prolactin is a different story.

@Kauto_star For me, it only manifested itself in a bad mood and a lack of desire to even go to the kitchen for a meal. Some people may experience erectile dysfunction. Generally, I preferred lowering prolactin instead of estrogen. Maybe I read too much about high estradiol causing higher IGF and believed that theory. Generally, you'll feel it if something's wrong. But stay positive; plenty of guys don't experience side effects from NPP.

 

[pimpman]

Good evening.

I am planning my next cycle for in about 1-2 months time. I have always been quite conservative with my cycles as I suffer from MPB so run Finasteride, so most of my cycles to date have been Test at 400mg per week and 80mg or 100mg or Var each day.

I have had blood work done following last cycle, everything looks ok apart form ALT which was around 100, which I know is high. I have had an ultrasound on my liver and thankfully all is fine. I did have high blood pressure on my last cycle but now that is under control and I have medication on hand, so blood pressure is stable around 125/70.

I want to run NPP. I have chosen NPP over Deca as I will be using Finasteride or Dutasteride on cycle, and if it results in increased hair loss, I will drop the NPP straight away.

My plan is to run 350mg Test E, with 300mg NPP per week. Are there certain things which you have noticed from NPP regarding blood panel or blood pressure, or other?

Thanks!

Brother I don’t know if you ever heard. The best vacation is the one you don’t do an itinerary for. If you don’t get to do something on your list you be disappointed.

Don’t listen to side effects or gains or what not. Not everyone is the same. Just do it and you will be able to know if it is working great for you or if you see something you don’t like and then drop it. Just my advice brother

 

[Kauto_star]

Wish I could take NPP. Tried it twice each time puffy sore nips from some one who never has estrogen sides gyno puffy nips etc.. Either way nandralones are the best mass builder with test . Back in the day 400 mg deca plus 800 mg test caused enormous strength and size gains. Always took double test over deca dose and no sexual sides ever.

Thanks Massive G - did it seem to go away once you had dropped the NPP or did you have to take other action when you noticed the puffy nips, etc...?

 

[Kauto_star]

Brother I don’t know if you ever heard. The best vacation is the one you don’t do an itinerary for. If you don’t get to do something on your list you be disappointed.

Don’t listen to side effects or gains or what not. Not everyone is the same. Just do it and you will be able to know if it is working great for you or if you see something you don’t like and then drop it. Just my advice brother

Thanks pimpman, sounds so simple but makes so much sense!

 

[bigbumpkin2003]

As far as I am concerned all the benefits of Deca without the negatives. Deca I always get Deca-dick. Your joints will fell amazing if you are older too. Same as Deca. My worst thing with Deca is when I go off I am literally about to use a cane the joint pain is unbelievable. But I have rheumatoid arthritis too. With NPP it isn’t such a horror show coming off

 

[Siggy]

I have only tried NPP once, the gains were good but it I did get mental side effects. I did not experience the deca dick though.

 

[Kauto_star]

As far as I am concerned all the benefits of Deca without the negatives. Deca I always get Deca-dick. Your joints will fell amazing if you are older too. Same as Deca. My worst thing with Deca is when I go off I am literally about to use a cane the joint pain is unbelievable. But I have rheumatoid arthritis too. With NPP it isn’t such a horror show coming off

Thanks bigbumpkin! That sounds like NPP might be useful with some joint issues then which isn't a bad thing!

 

[Kauto_star]

I have only tried NPP once, the gains were good but it I did get mental side effects. I did not experience the deca dick though.

Interesting, what mental sides? Anxiety? What dose did you run? Thanks for your comment.

 

[Siggy]

Interesting, what mental sides? Anxiety? What dose did you run? Thanks for your comment.

Just turned into an overtly emotional Karen. I was on 200mg NPP with 500 Test.