Agreed. Always enjoy your posts BTW.
On topic, I would be leery of the accuracy of the graph presented above. Also bad example, 50 mg NPP qd is not the way to go about it as you lose the huge peak you get with NPP, which is one of its primary advantages. Better to inject larger amounts biw-tiw as you will achieve a much higher peak concentration which then takes longer to clear obviously. Daily injections of NPP are useless and even counterproductive. In the attached graph, if it uploaded properly, you can see 100 mg NPP reaches a peak concentration twice that of 100mg ND. Nandrolone is still significantly elevated 3d post admin NPP. On a bi-weekly admin schedule, you will then of course build upon the significant level of nandrolone remaining after 3 days and create a higher peak, as it will actually be about 7 days before half of the NPP is cleared. And so on, build on the previous peak until you are ready to stop, at which point you take advantage of the other primary advantage of NPP, its clearance. The other graph is of no use as you can clearly see, perhaps for clearance assuming whatever data they used is accurate, but it does not represent true pharmacokinetics of the 2 esters. You can easily achieve concentrations that would take several weeks to attain with ND in the first week of NPP, achieve higher concentrations overall on a mg per mg per basis, and not spend another several weeks clearing the dose. Thus making NPP much more efficient, allowing you to save a considerable amount of time reaching peak and clearing.
Rex.
What? What are you saying here? What kind of dosing schedule do YOU feel will be best for anabolism/growth? How would e3d be better than ED which you say is useless?
Isn't that the theory behind front loading a cycle?
If plasma concentrations during days 1 and 2 are a priority, then why not do 300 on day 1, then 100 daily starting day 3?
In theory, wouldn't that provide the best of both worlds - fast peak and stable levels?
You want to take advantage of the peak of larger less frequent doses if growth is your priority. The drug takes a full day to peak (although close to peak in less than 24 hrs), and is still very near peak 2 days post admin, the 3rd day. By dividing the dose you achieve lower peak concentrations and lower concentrations overall. There will be some cumulative dose effect with qd admin, but this is also true of q3d admin and you start out your first day with a peak concentration 3x greater, which remains relatively stable for 3 days (day 0-2). So why would someone inject this drug daily? Even after 3 days of 100mg qd they will not be where I spent the last 3 days after a single 300mg admin. Nor will they ever catch up because I will dose another 300mg as soon as concentration begins to drop appreciably. Either they like to take shots every day for no reason or perhaps they want to attain a lower, relatively stable concentration with the goal of lessening sides. As people often do with tren but this is not tren. Make sense?
Rex.
Yeah this is the first I've ever heard of this...I've always had the impression that EVERY steroid is best injected ED, just that with longer esters it's not necessary.
I've never heard anything about peak levels being important, just that steady levels of hormones are important for minimal sides. After all, it is not a peak or burst of hormones that signals anabolism in us, but rather steady levels of hormones compounded over time.
You want to take advantage of the peak of larger less frequent doses if growth is your priority. The drug takes a full day to peak (although close to peak in less than 24 hrs), and is still very near peak 2 days post admin, the 3rd day. By dividing the dose you achieve lower peak concentrations and lower concentrations overall. There will be some cumulative dose effect with qd admin, but this is also true of q3d admin and you start out your first day with a peak concentration 3x greater, which remains relatively stable for 3 days (day 0-2). So why would someone inject this drug daily? Even after 3 days of 100mg qd they will not be where I spent the last 3 days after a single 300mg admin. Nor will they ever catch up because I will dose another 300mg as soon as concentration begins to drop appreciably. Either they like to take shots every day for no reason or perhaps they want to attain a lower, relatively stable concentration with the goal of lessening sides. As people often do with tren but this is not tren. Make sense?
Rex.
noOoooOooOoo gatorade is better!
Enjoying my first time on Tren & looking forward to trying the Tren, NPP, Test combo someday. . .
I have a question on npp in comparison to deca... I hear of insane strength gains with npp whereas deca the most reports are for sheer mass.. they are both nandrolone, just short and long estered versions.. so if you can handle deca, wouldn't both produce the same effects in the long run?