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NPP

and the tren dreams...

the last dream i remember on tren was of my mother executing me with an axe
i could feel the limbs being chopped off.

im glad that i usually dont remember my dreams, if i do and im on tren its usually about brutality, death or rape :eek:
sounds like good times...
 
sounds like good times...

it does get to your head after a while.

tren really needs to be cycled on and off.

as much as i love the effects, but after 3-4 months it takes a toll on your body.
my workout buddy was on tren for i think 14 months nonstop.

at the beginning it gave him a stimulant like effect, bad trensomnia but he only needed 6h of sleep to be fully refreshed

after like 6 months he needed more sleep and was tired all day. i think after 8 months or so he told me he NEEDED 10-12 hours a day minimum and was still tired all the time, lol...

i experienced similar things, but they all resolved by using t3 with tren.

i actually dont get ANY insomnia at ALL anymore, i sleep like a baby (except that i can drink a shitload over the course of a day and seem to piss it all out only at night, so there are times where i have to get up 5 times a night to piss :banghead:)
 
at the beginning it gave him a stimulant like effect, bad trensomnia but he only needed 6h of sleep to be fully refreshed

after like 6 months he needed more sleep and was tired all day. i think after 8 months or so he told me he NEEDED 10-12 hours a day minimum and was still tired all the time, lol...

i experienced similar things, but they all resolved by using t3 with tren.

I can relate! I know T3 is a big part of it.
Do you think that the glucocorticoid antagonism is also part of the tiredness? I think that the strong androgen-stimulating effect downregulates eventually, then the weaker anti-glucocorticoid effect has built up and is left exposed.
Last time, I was tired and t3 helped some, but I still had two modes: lay-the-fu_k-down and intense-workout. I guess next time I should use NPP!
 
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I can relate! I know T3 is a big part of it.
Do you think that the glucocorticoid antagonism is also part of the tiredness? I think that the strong androgen-stimulating effect downregulates eventually, then the weaker anti-glucocorticoid effect has built up and is left exposed.
Last time, I was tired and t3 helped some, but I still had two modes: lay-the-fu_k-down and intense-workout. I guess next time I should use NPP!

honestly i have no idea. i dont think the androgen-effect loses strength over time. no such thing as receptor downregulation.
maybe its buildup of low cortisol or something, i dont know.

i often get hypoglycemia spells on tren, i start sweating, feel dizzy and have to lay down for a couple minutes or pass out for a short nap and i think this can be related to very low cortisol somehow. only happens in the morning too.
 
you run a high dose of deca and low test you probably wont be getting erections for awhile
 
Just picked some up and cant wait to use it again. I ran the stallion labs npp at 400mg with 400mg test and loved it. Great gains. Last time i used dostinex just to be safe but im going to try it without it this time.
 

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