on HRT doc wants blood work

mormussle · Apr 11, 2012

I'm going to give it 5 weeks before I test. In the mean time I will stay on anavar for about the next 3 weeks, then drop that to. The GH is staying. I'm hoping after 5 weeks my level is low or in the low range, as my body really does not make any natural test ( been on for like 10 years ) This is an old Doc, that is not an endo, he basically does me a favor, as he understands that the gel sucks so I get cyp.

so tren will not show up on a testosterone test ????? I would really like to know more about this !!!!! since I love tren!!

BTW I'm 47 so the HRT really is legit. It's just so dam convenient to go to CVS and get a bottle of Watson for 10.00 Like I said doc's around here only like to give the gel. So I would really like to hang on to this script.

Kaladryn · Apr 11, 2012

DOGGCRAPP said:
IM more surprised he hasnt gotten bloodwork more frequently as thats more par for the course.

I am on HRT and I have to have bloodwork done every 3-6 months along with consultations going over that bloodwork to see where we are with everything

Same here, my doc wants bloodwork and then an appointment every 3 months, but lets me go 6 months before the office starts calling me...

mormussle said:
I'm going to give it 5 weeks before I test. In the mean time I will stay on anavar for about the next 3 weeks, then drop that to. The GH is staying. I'm hoping after 5 weeks my level is low or in the low range, as my body really does not make any natural test ( been on for like 10 years ) This is an old Doc, that is not an endo, he basically does me a favor, as he understands that the gel sucks so I get cyp.

so tren will not show up on a testosterone test ????? I would really like to know more about this !!!!! since I love tren!!

BTW I'm 47 so the HRT really is legit. It's just so dam convenient to go to CVS and get a bottle of Watson for 10.00 Like I said doc's around here only like to give the gel. So I would really like to hang on to this script.

Anything that binds to Androgen Receptor is likely to show up as testosterone on bloodwork.

Androh · Apr 11, 2012

Kaladryn said:
Same here, my doc wants bloodwork and then an appointment every 3 months, but lets me go 6 months before the office starts calling me...

Anything that binds to Androgen Receptor is likely to show up as testosterone on bloodwork.

ANYTHING that binds to the androgen receptor? Such as estrogen? Please refrain from making such broad statements.

Also, FYI, only testosterone shows up as testosterone on bloodwork.

CDJack · Apr 11, 2012

mormussle said:
guess he just wants to cover his ass. When you look like a lot of us do ?? people have a hard time with it. It's hard to get a local doc around here to give you anything besides a test gel, and that stuff sucks. Anyone know about the anavar???

Why do you think test gel sucks? Not hardcore enough for you? it works plenty good if you get the right gel...just as well as injections and for me, just as cheap almost.

anabolic2k · Apr 11, 2012

Androh said:
ANYTHING that binds to the androgen receptor? Such as estrogen? Please refrain from making such broad statements.

Also, FYI, only testosterone shows up as testosterone on bloodwork.

OK, im a little confused? So were saying/thinking that somebody could be using 1gram Tren A a week and will still show as being below normal range on a T/FT test?

No flame, this is a genuine question!

718si · Apr 11, 2012

anabolic2k said:
OK, im a little confused? So were saying/thinking that somebody could be using 1gram Tren A a week and will still show as being below normal range on a T/FT test?

No flame, this is a genuine question!

TT/FT will be unaffected.

May throw off some other values if testing for those (e2, prog, etc...)

mormussle · Apr 12, 2012

CDJack said:
Why do you think test gel sucks? Not hardcore enough for you? it works plenty good if you get the right gel...just as well as injections and for me, just as cheap almost.

The only one I ever tryed was testim, and it smelled like cheep colone. Most of the year, I would have take a bath in the stuff LOL.

Crom · Apr 12, 2012

CDJack said:
Why do you think test gel sucks? Not hardcore enough for you? it works plenty good if you get the right gel...just as well as injections and for me, just as cheap almost.

You know it is not all people that gel works for. Remember we are all different. Some people just don't absorb the gel well enough through the skin.

CDJack · Apr 12, 2012

mormussle said:
The only one I ever tryed was testim, and it smelled like cheep colone. Most of the year, I would have take a bath in the stuff LOL.

Testim is garbage. Get compounded gel

CDJack · Apr 12, 2012

Crom said:
You know it is not all people that gel works for. Remember we are all different. Some people just don't absorb the gel well enough through the skin.

I am sorry I just don't buy that. Are you really fat or something? If not, you should have no problem absorbing it if you put it on the right areas. Have you tried a gel, and if so, which? If it's testim or androgel, then we can stop the conversation right there. They are both garbage. Get a high concentration compounded gel. And if that doesn't work for you, try a high concentration compounded cream.

Crom · Apr 12, 2012

CDJack said:
I am sorry I just don't buy that. Are you really fat or something? If not, you should have no problem absorbing it if you put it on the right areas. Have you tried a gel, and if so, which? If it's testim or androgel, then we can stop the conversation right there. They are both garbage. Get a high concentration compounded gel. And if that doesn't work for you, try a high concentration compounded cream.

Haha...no, I am not fat, I have used Testogel. I was not specifically talking about myself. I have a friend that it did nothing for so he got injections instead.

mormussle · May 31, 2012

This is what happend. I used anavar and tren ace only for 5 weeks. Dropped all test. Then dropped the tren and anavar 4 days before my test. Total testosterone 50. Doc called in my refills right away!!!

Warhammer1 · May 31, 2012

mormussle said:
This is what happend. I used anavar and tren ace only for 5 weeks. Dropped all test. Then dropped the tren and anavar 4 days before my test. Total testosterone 50. Doc called in my refills right away!!!

Mormussle,

thanks for the update I am in the exact same situation with the exact same meds and was wondering my own outcome. I suspected I would have much the same results as you. However, I am thinking I just need to come in on the low side not low..if ya know what I mean. So I am thinking that I will do a small dose of .5cc Watson test Cyp about 5 days out from my labs. Not 100% on this so any suggestions would be appreciated.

btw...how much tren and anavar were you running?

mormussle · Jun 6, 2012

50 mg day anavar, 75mg tren EOD 5iu GH day. I would go 1/4 cc of cyp better low than high.

Jude2 · Jun 6, 2012

Androh said:
ANYTHING that binds to the androgen receptor? Such as estrogen? Please refrain from making such broad statements.

Also, FYI, only testosterone shows up as testosterone on bloodwork.

THat is false. Testosterone in NOT the only thing in bloodwork that will show up as test, do u think Kaladryn is wrong. I was taking AST's prohormone years ago the 4 and 5 diol and my total testosterone was way over the limit. I know it was it bc it was the only 2 things I was taking.

jquijano · Jun 8, 2012

if your trying to get your numbers low just get off everything before you test 3wks out.. if you already have a script take as directed and see really where your numbers are.

enda · Jun 8, 2012

anaver will help with gains, stop taking it 5 days before test and it won't show up.

Androh · Jun 17, 2012

Jude2 said:
THat is false. Testosterone in NOT the only thing in bloodwork that will show up as test, do u think Kaladryn is wrong. I was taking AST's prohormone years ago the 4 and 5 diol and my total testosterone was way over the limit. I know it was it bc it was the only 2 things I was taking.

You were probably taking a prohormone that converted to testosterone in the body. If you take tren, it will not show up as testosterone. Do you know why? Because tren is not testosterone.

Stupes · Jun 19, 2012

Androh said:
You were probably taking a prohormone that converted to testosterone in the body.

Bingo. Those prohormones converted to test. But tren doesn't convert to test.

Androh said:
If you take tren, it will not show up as testosterone. Do you know why? Because tren is not testosterone.

Haha - yup, pretty simple. Why do people run at least a base TRT amount of test while on anabolics like Tren/Deca/EQ? Because those anabolics are not testosterone and it's good to have at least a normal amount of testosterone in your system for sexual function etc.