On TRT for 6 months... time for a blast - input needed

[PoptartPsycho]

Hey guys, I have been on TRT for 6 months now and have gotten some really great info from the guys posting on this forum.

My protocol is :
200mg test (80% cyp 20% prop) weekly
2 x 1mg adex tabs weekly *
2 x 500ius HCG weekly

* NOTE I am only taking half tab of adex instead of the whole one the doc RX'd because my E2 numbers were low.

I am doing very well on this and will have updated #s to post in two weeks when I have my blood work done.

But I would like to do an 8 week blast to bump things up. I am thinking of adding :

200mg Tren Enanthate weekly
50mg proviron ED

to my current protocol. What do you think? Any changes? Sounds good or it sucks? I do have other things to substitute as well if need be.

Primo (lots of this, no shortage here)
EQ but really would not want to use because my Hema #s get up easily and EQ thickens the blood as well
Deca/NPP - only used these once about 7 years ago. Realllllyyy don't want to take a chance with my libido.
Masterone
Cut Mix - 50mg each of prop/tren/masterone

I don't want to end up taking a shit load of gear again. Just a small bump for 8 weeks that will be a "Plus 1" to my cycle and get me a bit of extra. New muscle would be nice, but I don't think I am going to be getting much new muscle at my age (40. 5'9" , 206, about 8% BF). Nor do I want to put on any undue water retention.

Care to throw some input out here and reasoning why behind it? Thanks a lot guys.

 

[MaineGuy]

Im in my 40's, let me tell you I love NPP. My libido was sky high. It fills you out real good. You will put on muscle with NPP. I used .5mgs caber E3D just to make sure I had no prolactin issues.

 

[Goody]

I like Test P and NPP with my blasts...a little Mast. is a nice touch but not required.
No libido issues at all with NPP for me either..

 

[PoptartPsycho]

Im in my 40's, let me tell you I love NPP. My libido was sky high. It fills you out real good. You will put on muscle with NPP. I used .5mgs caber E3D just to make sure I had no prolactin issues.

Let me throw some more questions at you then.

1 - What dose and how frequently do you hit the NPP?
2 - If I use caber E3D like you do, would I need to continue or drop the adex I am currently taking (.5mg twice weekly?)
3 - I hope that NPP won't affect my libido, but if it does... then what? Cialis?
4 - Do you get any fat or water off the NPP?
5 - How much test are you using weekly when you go this route?

 

[Knight9]

Let me throw some more questions at you then.

1 - What dose and how frequently do you hit the NPP?
2 - If I use caber E3D like you do, would I need to continue or drop the adex I am currently taking (.5mg twice weekly?)
3 - I hope that NPP won't affect my libido, but if it does... then what? Cialis?
4 - Do you get any fat or water off the NPP?
5 - How much test are you using weekly when you go this route?

Ill add my input.
1) 600mg is awesome. MWF or e3d.
2) Keep it the same.
3) Cabaser, Proviron, Cialis
4) Minimal
5) 200,600,1000 etc.

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[cardealer]

I get good results blasting on 15 mg prop,15 mg npp and 35 primo daily for 8-10 weeks,then drop npp and increase primo to 50 for 6-8 weeks more.Also use rips at 3.3-5 iu daily during this peroid.Get good results and very little sides and at 59 years old this is important to me.

 

[MaineGuy]

Ill add my input.
1) 600mg is awesome. MWF or e3d.
2) Keep it the same.
3) Cabaser, Proviron, Cialis
4) Minimal
5) 200,600,1000 etc.

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Knight9 is exactly how I run it also. I ran my Test at 750mgs/week with NPP at 600mgs/week.
I never had NPP mess with my libido, but I was running Caber and Aromasin. I really don't know why I did it, but I got Deca for my next cycle. I am kicking myself in the butt because I really loved NPP. I was gaining weight while dropping fat in the mid section, and I was eating all the time.

 

[nwiron]

Right now I am running 35mg Test Cyp MWF (norm trt) and Mast Enan 300mgs/wk. I'm in wk three now and liking the mast. Things are about to get rolling, I can tell. Just got some more growth as well so I will be adding in 8ius eod Pre work out bolus dose. Low sides, extra edge, but nothing drastic. I like it this way. Thinking of switching to primo at 3-400mgs when I run out of mast.

NW

 

[PoptartPsycho]

I don't really want to increase the test anymore than what I am currently using.

I guess I read the geardoc thread and that sort of stuck with me.

So 200mg test and 600mg NPP would work? That much test would be enough for libido and stuff?

Bonus question... what peptides would you run with this if you think they are beneficial?

 

[PoptartPsycho]

So if I am going to keep my test the same - 250mg weekly, how much NPP to use?

 

[jallphin5]

Npp
300 to 400 mgs a week, shit is amazing

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[Gr8Wall]

I don't really want to increase the test anymore than what I am currently using.

I guess I read the geardoc thread and that sort of stuck with me.

So 200mg test and 600mg NPP would work? That much test would be enough for libido and stuff?

Bonus question... what peptides would you run with this if you think they are beneficial?

I'm curious what is the geardoc thread you referred to? You got me interested and would now like to read myself. Thanks.

 

[PoptartPsycho]

I'm curious what is the geardoc thread you referred to? You got me interested and would now like to read myself. Thanks.

sorry it was geardepot. my bad.

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/professional-muscle-forum/81428-**dr-g**-q.html

 

[PoptartPsycho]

Ok, got my blood #s back today. This is the protocol I am following now :

My protocol is :
200mg test (80% cyp 20% prop) weekly
2 x 1mg adex tabs weekly *
2 x 500ius HCG weekly

* NOTE I am only taking half tab of adex instead of the whole one the doc RX'd because my E2 numbers were low.


My #s

WBC 8.4
RBC 5.34
Hemo 16.0
Hema 47.9
Test 1800
LH 0.5 (thought the hcg would boost this higher)
FSH 0.2
E2 16.2
Uric Acid 5.2

So if I do 300-400mg NPP weekly, is the test (200mg) a week I now take sufficient? I would do 125mg NPP on Mon Wed Fri.
And I would still take 0.5mg of caber on those same days.

 

[MaineGuy]

Ok, got my blood #s back today. This is the protocol I am following now :

My protocol is :
200mg test (80% cyp 20% prop) weekly
2 x 1mg adex tabs weekly *
2 x 500ius HCG weekly

* NOTE I am only taking half tab of adex instead of the whole one the doc RX'd because my E2 numbers were low.


My #s

WBC 8.4
RBC 5.34
Hemo 16.0
Hema 47.9
Test 1800
LH 0.5 (thought the hcg would boost this higher)
FSH 0.2
E2 16.2
Uric Acid 5.2

So if I do 300-400mg NPP weekly, is the test (200mg) a week I now take sufficient? I would do 125mg NPP on Mon Wed Fri.
And I would still take 0.5mg of caber on those same days.

I think HCG mimics LH but doesn't raise it? I could be wrong on this.
Many people do low test with their other compounds, I just don't dare to when it come to NPP or Deca. I got Deca dick back when I was 20 running Deca and hardly any Test, so I am just scared. You should only need .5mgs Caber E3D. You don't want to lower prolactin too much.

Also, your Test numbers are high for 200mgs, but that is a good thing. I would not want to run my TRT levels there too long though, will not be healthy for you.

 

[PoptartPsycho]

The last time I had them measured they were 1250. I had the blood drawn closer to my last injection this time though.

Yes like you, I am very worried about deca dick.

 

[MaineGuy]

The last time I had them measured they were 1250. I had the blood drawn closer to my last injection this time though.

Yes like you, I am very worried about deca dick.

I will say though, using NPP I did not have any problems, and my libido was sky high. I was running higher Test than NPP, so I can't answer about low Test.

 

[PoptartPsycho]

Well I am hoping 200mg test is enough for 300mg of NPP.
I think the days of using high doses for me are over and through. I am not looking to gain 20lbs off this. 2lbs and some body recomposition will be enough for me to be happy