OS and Inflammation in bodybuilders and how to fix!

[jcc80]

Well, hopefully you stick around. I, for one, intend to use your services at some point when funds allow. I know your site will still be there regardless... But, out of sight, out of mind, ya know?

 

[Stewie]

Dr. Kim.

What's your thoughts on the potential of antioxidants relationship to melanoma metastasis? Granted this has only been observed with animal models, do you feel this may readily translate to humans?

In the same context of the aforementioned. What's your stance on overuse of antioxidants? Given the fact oxidation is essential to life.

Do you pursue cause(s) of inflammatory responses, e.g, sleep apnea, food/environmental allergens (TH1/TH2 imbalances) mental stress, hormonal disruptors/dysfunction, ect, ect rather than bandaid with supplementaion?

Thanks

 

[drkimcrawford]

I"m extending my stay and have a great thread for you!

To my friends here:
I wrote an article with not just cholesterol info but alternatative regimen info and exactly what causes placquing and how to reverse it.

Everyone is wowed, even got PM's from MODS with personal questions and kudos. If that doesn't speak volumes to the one dissenting voice here then nothing will.

I'm going to re-up on the 18th- Big A is THE BEST and gave me a week extension.

By the way I offer my services SUPER cheap compared to "real life" so services are not how I make any profits. I will stop promoting my bodybuilding kit but you will not find a better price for the value (pharmaceutical grade,non GMO, GMP certified,only sold by M.D.'s,no toxins guaranteed,very high quality stuff my pro's take. I have patients who are ex Olympic athletes and they love my stuff if that means anything.)

If nothing else you should see what is in the kit and learn what each component does because if you take care of what I say you should take care of (LIKE inflammation and OS) then you will not only be healthy, you will get bigger.

This thread explains why.
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/f...931-here-finally-cholesterol-article-you.html


Please no negativity,I really enjoy being here and want to have nice discussions and offer solutions. No matter how much anyone reads I would THINK having a Dr on the forum who is QUALIFIED (read the article in the thread and you'll get that I AM!) would be nice.

Happy Saturday!
Dr.Kim

 

[LK3]

LK3 you and I get along fine but you're out of line! Have an adult discussion/disagreement...you really came off like an ass on this one. It's fine to disagree with her but you can do it respectfully. Intelligent debates are encouraged and always wind up being very informative! I wish you would have taken that route.

I do not disagree that I was a dick here...
BUT...

the thing I have issue with is dr kim coming on here saying that no one has discussed antiox, inflammation, or how to address such issues.

I heard I was banned n kinda figured it since I was a dick but, I think not so cool for a newbie to come on here n talk a bunch of bs as we all know that I have been talking about these issues heavily for 4+ years and have been a paying sponsor for 2 years.

I like you guys n don't try to go out of my way to cause issue, im all for the doc, I am not all for a newbie coming on here and saying that I have not done what I have done.

her claim to fame is nothing more then some school...

respect goes both ways, this little lady should learn that part too...

pretty sure this covers the other questions.

its like someone coming on here saying hey I have the best testosterone ever, no one has talked about it no one knows about it and here I am to save you all with MY special test...

then seeing that said test is like some 98% china bs...

ill try to play nicer...

 

[drkimcrawford]

Reply and happy Monday!

Dr. Kim.

What's your thoughts on the potential of antioxidants relationship to melanoma metastasis? Granted this has only been observed with animal models, do you feel this may readily translate to humans?

In the same context of the aforementioned. What's your stance on overuse of antioxidants? Given the fact oxidation is essential to life.

Do you pursue cause(s) of inflammatory responses, e.g, sleep apnea, food/environmental allergens (TH1/TH2 imbalances) mental stress, hormonal disruptors/dysfunction, ect, ect rather than bandaid with supplementaion?

Thanks

Morning Stewie and LK3-
LK3 you first-IDK what you mean-everyone knows about OS and that antioxidants are the answer-I have good phar grade non GMO AO and so do others,what is the problem here.

Same with inflammation=everyone knows that too and what people may not know is that there is a NEW curcuminoid out there and just look at my site and see what it is...no one is forcing anyone to buy anything here. But I am up to date with all of this.

And as a little FYI it's not a little school
IVY undergrad,2 majors,one was biophysics=4 yrs
Med school =4 yrs
IM residency=3 yrs
Preventive Med Fellowship = 2 yrs
Sports Med Fellowship=2 yrs
Anti-aging and RM Fellowships,written boards,oral boards=4 yrs
TOTAL education here-well you can add.

So yes there are some posters I HIGHLY respect like Stewie for instance.

Speaking of Stewie:
I personally have read MANY conflicting studies in melanoma and other cancers regarding antioxidants. It's literally 50/50. MEanwhile there are other well done studies suggesting that early cancer can be cured (DON"T ANYONE TRY THIS) with blasting high high antioxidants, resveratrol and the triple curcuminoid I just referenced. So your guess is as good as mine here.

I look at studies using raman spec measurement of AOX status and a score of 100K raman units seems to confer amazing benes. That's double what is "needed" and these units don't translate to ORAC's as they are reflective of antioxidant tissue status and urinary isoprostanes are the only other way to get this measured. My opinion is that your only limitation is with fat soluble AOX like natural E's and amazing but fat sol things like azaxanthin,lutein, etc.

Yes I absolutely always try to figure out WHY someone has high inflammatory makers-I am very "root cause" oriented.

Happy Monday all!
Dr.Kim

 

[LK3]

Morning Stewie and LK3-
LK3 you first-IDK what you mean-everyone knows about OS and that antioxidants are the answer-I have good phar grade non GMO AO and so do others,what is the problem here.

Same with inflammation=everyone knows that too and what people may not know is that there is a NEW curcuminoid out there and just look at my site and see what it is...no one is forcing anyone to buy anything here. But I am up to date with all of this.

And as a little FYI it's not a little school
IVY undergrad,2 majors,one was biophysics=4 yrs
Med school =4 yrs
IM residency=3 yrs
Preventive Med Fellowship = 2 yrs
Sports Med Fellowship=2 yrs
Anti-aging and RM Fellowships,written boards,oral boards=4 yrs
TOTAL education here-well you can add.

!
Dr.Kim

oh boy dr kim...
see this is often the problem with those so indoctrinated into the....
"normal"? world?
lol
so you spent like 20 years in school... lol
shit.. I cant even say what I want as they will ban me again... lol:lightbulb:

well im sure school impresses the house wives.

I wont get into my past, ppl don't believe me or they think im bragging,.

I have spent the last 20 years living in the real world, experiencing it, experimenting with it AND reading about it. ill leave it at that. but severally biting my tongue..

what I mean is that for the last 4-5 years I have been hammering everyone here with how and why there various problems are essentially all caused by same or similar route... oxidation/inflammation

when I say you need to read more. I mean READ HERE!

I have more then 4500 posts. prob more then 60% are about this subject.

curcumin... um... I am probably the only source on the planet for some forms of it.

I and those I know have developed curcumin for our uses. superior to all other forms sold. it is superior due to administration.

I have walked into pharmacology labs in pharmacology schools and dropped leading researches jaws with my none degrees on this subject and others that are associated... hypoxia, brain oxygenation.. all come back to here...

so curcumin.. for 8 years I and those I am associated with have developed something superior to what is available. the only others to have it are highest level researches on the subject cancer institutes n schools. we have done things you can not do. we have done things that real researchers can not do...

why?

because we are not doctors!
we can do things in the real world with real athletes and we do...
yes I have Olympic athletes using them...
I also show guys how to use these things to improve there training...
several titles picked up by these alone possible will have a world title holder soon.

I have also helped people on this site fix there lives and lives of there loved ones by using and addressing various antiox issues... cancer... gone. major disease helped/fixed, normal life given to those in bed rest with constant pain... even got vets who were blown up in the war off of pain killers n back in the gym.

I am in no competition with you as I have no competition...

I do however ask that you show a little respect and read the forum, maybe you would learn something new...

I didn't need school to learn.

because of what I do and what I know I would love to see a dr be helpful and interested in this and try to help the same high level ppl that I help. I was hoping you might fall into that. clearly we are off to a bad start.

I am always hoping for a brighter tomorrow...

 

[drkimcrawford]

OK!

Sweetheart,
I was not aware you have been pushing the OS and inflammation info. SORRY.

But here's the reason:

I have a medical practice
I have the AWS website bz and another website based bz
I was the medical reporter for NBC and am still a consultant
I am in the middle of doing a landmark brain health study I will write up and present at A4M and A5M (yes in Australia too)
I consult for CMS-largest fitness club chain consulting firm for independent owners in the world
I consult for 3 other fortune 500 companies
I JUST came on here a month ago
I see threads where I think my help is needed otherwise just plain don't have time to view all threads.
MY BAD. Let's chill here OK?

Dr.Kim
PS Not trying to impress you with my years of schooling,just trying to let you know I'm not some seat-of -the pants hacker on here. (NO I"M NOT IMPLYING YOU ARE DIDN"T I JUST SAY CHILL. GOTTA GO NOW,have actual pts waiting.) Have a super day and I MEAN IT!

 

[LK3]

well maybe you see my point now of reading rather then just jumping in and assuming you are the first.

I understand and appreciate the value of real dr.

which is why I have been poking you a little.

what I do is far beyond what you guys are mostly capable of for legal reasons, THAT is the part you need to understand...

some of us read the research and see the holes, see what isn't said and find our own ways to do it better. later we find we were right or rightish. being a dr you cant do that.

mainstream has jumped on this area as of late. you are mainstream. lol
some of us where on line of thinking years before. im all for learning from you, maybe spend some time n see what you can learn from us.

so far the posts of yours that I have read mirror much of my thinking and posting so I don't think that you are wrong or bad or anything like that. really im pushing you to see if in fact you COULD be a resource for things that are outside of the mainstream.

I actually have stopped posting on much of this as I have said it so many times before and because I being me can not help people in the same ways that you can. I can help those that do the work on there own but that group is a tiny % of the ppl you see posting regularly.

gotgame mentioned that he n I got off to a rocky start, now he is one of the people whos posting I respect most. hopefully we can say the same a little down the line.


enjoy your patients..
I have no patience... lol

 

[b_cornelius]

Dr Kim,
LK3 is not a doctor, but he can get on here and tell us about curcumin, ect.

As a doctor what can you tell us about treatments regarding the specifics of inflammation? I mean inflammation isn't a good-or-bad thing; there are various ligands that have various mechanisms. Some sorts of inflammation are good for bodybuilding.

What about the various developing treatments that target specific inflammatory pathways?

 

[drkimcrawford]

WHEW

Long day and just lost long post.

Re-cap is known inflammatory pathways are LOX COX1 COX2. These respond to meds like tylenol, aleve, motrin but these are not the internal inflammatory pathways which lead to diseases like cancer , heart disease, alzheimer's.

Newly discovered as important in internal inflammation are inflammatory cytokines, and anti-inflammatory cytokine therapy is currently being developed.

It now exists in skin care and studies are evolving in other fields. Amazingly enough in all pathways mentioned above we see efficary of curcuminoids which contain demethoxy curcumin-the most potent one.

 

[Thebigone]

well maybe you see my point now of reading rather then just jumping in and assuming you are the first.

I understand and appreciate the value of real dr.

which is why I have been poking you a little.

what I do is far beyond what you guys are mostly capable of for legal reasons, THAT is the part you need to understand...

some of us read the research and see the holes, see what isn't said and find our own ways to do it better. later we find we were right or rightish. being a dr you cant do that.

mainstream has jumped on this area as of late. you are mainstream. lol
some of us where on line of thinking years before. im all for learning from you, maybe spend some time n see what you can learn from us.

so far the posts of yours that I have read mirror much of my thinking and posting so I don't think that you are wrong or bad or anything like that. really im pushing you to see if in fact you COULD be a resource for things that are outside of the mainstream.

I actually have stopped posting on much of this as I have said it so many times before and because I being me can not help people in the same ways that you can. I can help those that do the work on there own but that group is a tiny % of the ppl you see posting regularly.

gotgame mentioned that he n I got off to a rocky start, now he is one of the people whos posting I respect most. hopefully we can say the same a little down the line.


enjoy your patients..
I have no patience... lol

What doses of curcumin are needed?

 

[drkimcrawford]

Curcumin

Depends on inflammatory markers which in my experience with low body fat clean eating bodybuilders is less than mortals. Usually 1 gram 2x/day of

https://www.drkimsagewellsolutions.com/store/cumetra-60-softgels/ these 3 ingredients are enough for inflammation, brain protection, cancer prevention,magic stuff.

If you get a curcumin without the third component it's cheaper-I carry a cheaper one too and in that case you usually need 1.5-2 grams 2x/day.

Yes I know these sound like big doses but it's been studied (in pre-Alzheimer's pts-it dissolves amyloid) in doses up to 5 grams 2x/day with no GI issues unless there is PUD (peptic ulcer disease.)

 

[LK3]

What doses of curcumin are needed?

for what? lol
I would venture to say no dose of curcumin is "needed".

once you know why you wana use it. we can get into more specifics. what method of administration? and what do you expect out of it.

since we have many hundreds of pages on curcmin ill not rehash it all here.

 

[Thebigone]

for what? lol
I would venture to say no dose of curcumin is "needed".

once you know why you wana use it. we can get into more specifics. what method of administration? and what do you expect out of it.

since we have many hundreds of pages on curcmin ill not rehash it all here.

Just for general health and wellness.

 

[Bio]

I have respect for what you've been doing but get some thicker skin LK3! You're sounding like a cry baby. Ok, so she didn't come on here and search out all the threads on antioxidants that you've spearheaded but you don't have to react like she personally attacked you! A lot of people here recognize your contribution...that should be enough for you...don't let your ego get in the way!

In your follow up posts you sound like you want to scream, yell and curse instead of having an intelligent conversation/debate with her...what gives? If you can't politely and intelligently disagree then stay out of her threads...last warning!! This shouldn't be the cluster that its turned into.

Get off the cross...we need the wood!

 

[ugadawg91]

''No one here seems to know about the ramifications of oxidative stress or inflammation in BB's."

LOL - read the veteran supplies thread ....1000s of posts on this subject throughout PM..

Dr Kim, which would be more bio-available and helpful to the body. Intramuscular curcumin or an oral powder based curcumin supplement ..


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[drkimcrawford]

Sorry,said that based on a thread where no one seemed to know!

IM can damage muscle and there is no earthly reason to do IM unless you have an active peptic ulcer.

 

[Toraxx]

Sorry,said that based on a thread where no one seemed to know!

IM can damage muscle and there is no earthly reason to do IM unless you have an active peptic ulcer.

By far the best doc I have ever came across... Thank you for everything you have done for my team including myself ...

Yours Truly,
Dr. Clark

 

[devenidas]

By far the best doc I have ever came across... Thank you for everything you have done for my team including myself ...

Yours Truly,
Dr. Clark

I take it you are sponsor here too and a doctor as u say. In what capacity do you know Dr Kim and how long u have know each other may I ask ? Also we know how long Dr Kim has been here. Can you please share with the members how long you have been here as a sponsor?

You say she is the best Doc and she recommends buying something off you with a 10 percent code, something like that. Fair enough. Nothing wrong in that at all. Common business practice but we still require some transparency with that. I hope you can appreciate members concerns.

Also what do you specialise in Dr Clark? Do you have a website like Dr Kim where we can see info on you in black and white?

Thanking you in advance. Cheers

 

[ugadawg91]

Sorry,said that based on a thread where no one seemed to know!



IM can damage muscle and there is no earthly reason to do IM unless you have an active peptic ulcer.

Are you serious - the bioavailability is so incredibly low oral admin ..... Unless you have a novel formulation like you probably advertise ,, then it could probably raise it to 10-15% tops bioavailability maybe over less than 1%...

Inject is way to go for bioavailability and longer absorption time over days of time....

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