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OT: Monogamy, Ego, Hormones

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What woman lol

lol my bad, I meant to say sorry to hear about your friends.

The guy is a TOOL because he saw his gf give out her number and apparently did/said nothing. Also because his gf is so checked out of relationship and he thinks everything is just fine. Typical oblivious man treating his woman like an old pair of slippers that will always be there whenever he wants to slip in. He no longer needs to take care of them (her) like when they were new. If a woman wants to cheat, she will be much more sly and calculated than a man would. Her giving out phone number in front of him is a TEST to see if he even cares. He FAILED and for that is a TOOL. You disagree because you don`t understand what happened.

A small minority or women may cheat just for dick, but they really cheat for the emotional connection with a man, a romance, that will often lead to sex. All that stuff they had in beginning of relationship till the man (or both of them) got lazy and took the relationship for granted. You guys always say "women change", SO DOES THE GUY by doing the above. You have so much to learn about women young jedi.

Youre right about women being sneaky and sly when cheating. My ex-wife sure was like that. I think your analysis of Slice's friend's situation is probably fairly accurate. I agree that most women cheat because they are unhappy emotionally and want to feel loved, be in love again. When they feel like their significant other takes them for granted then they go out seeking attention and affection. That's what happpened with me. Not all women are like that though. My ex had low self esteem I think and needed a man to make her feel better about herself. I guess I wasn't doing that for her anymore. Many women are stronger than that though and will just break off the relationship and find someone new rather than cheat.

I think there are a lot more men out there that cheat because they just want the sex. Hormones there I think. I have yet to meet a woman like that, one that can go out and have sex with other men and still be in love with their husband/boyfriend. I personally like to have sex and love intermingled. When I had sex without caring about the woman I found it wasnt very satifsfying.

Hogan, you're probably thinking I disagree with you more than I actually do.

I don't know the whole story of course, just what Little Slice mentioned, but I of course agree it's insane this guy would see his girl go get another guys number and not make a big deal out of it. Hell, he should probably have called off the engagement right there. Having said that, she's still a complete cunt for doing that.

Crazy girl I dated cheated on her ex with her boss. She felt guilty when she got in her car, and called him crying saying what she did. He gave her a big hug when he got home and said he wanted to make sure she was ok. I mean that is just insanely pathetic. I feel bad for him but wow. They continued dating for the next year with a horrible sex life, and she left him (said he was great and she loved him but wasn't in love with him anymore). Ended up dating her boss for a few months. But she was still wrong for doing it and still a cunt for doing that to him, she should have just left him. She had been shitty and flirting with her boss the whole time, going to NYC clubs and doing who knows what, etc. so she was already a shitty person even before that.

A good woman still needs love and attention, but it's no mans FAULT for his girl cheating. It could be his fault for her leaving, losing interest, falling out of love, etc....but it's on the woman to not be a cunt and to have the balls to just leave the relationship. Zero excuse for cheating even if you can explain the reason behind it. And for the record, this applies to me too, I've been less than perfect and there's no excuse for it.

I would agree that many men seem to be able to cheat for sex and still fully love their woman. Most women I know who cheat were unsatisfied in the relationship and there were other issues.
 
More of a side note really but that girl above who cheated with her boss. Her bf was a 6'3", apparently well endowed, cop who at one point was a player and then became boring and religious or something and so things sucked. Her boss was on the shorter side (5'10") not really an impressive body, small uncircumcised dick, but according to her she was extremely attracted to how well he carried himself and acted (and he had slept with a lot of the other former employees lol). She was a very cliche "into dominance, into positions of power, into cocky arrogant assholes" girl, by her own admission.
 
Little Slice, when was the last time you were in love with a girl? Why did it end?
 
Little Slice, when was the last time you were in love with a girl? Why did it end?
So whatcha gonna do with your girlfriend situation? It sounds like youre not sure yet.

 
Little Slice, when was the last time you were in love with a girl? Why did it end?


I've never been in love

Love is just a chemical reaction that occurs in the brain to drive two beings to reproduce with one another.

I've been rather fond of a girl.. But she was very young (just turned 18) and I was entering grad school.

I was too focused on my education to keep the ball rolling.
 
I've never been in love

Love is just a chemical reaction that occurs in the brain to drive two beings to reproduce with one another.
When you get down to it, everything in life you experience is just a chemical reaction in the brain. You cant look at it like that, you are missing the big picture.
 
When you get down to it, everything in life you experience is just a chemical reaction in the brain. You cant look at it like that, you are missing the big picture.


I agree with the first point

Outside of religious belief, life is about pursuing pleasure.


I subscribe to the Epicurean style of hedonism wherein I seek a tranquil and simple life - free from pain and distraction. I don't pursue degeneracy or excess per se.

Inviting the government into your life is just providing avenues for pain to be delivered... And there is no upside.

It really is that simple.
 
I've never been in love

Love is just a chemical reaction that occurs in the brain to drive two beings to reproduce with one another.

I've been rather fond of a girl.. But she was very young (just turned 18) and I was entering grad school.

I was too focused on my education to keep the ball rolling.

There's certainly more to what the feeling of love is, it's not just to make people reproduce, and that has more to do with lust anyway. But I do agree it's largely due to various neurotransmitters, hormones, etc

Regardless, my question was when you last felt the feeling created as such.


I agree with the first point

Outside of religious belief, life is about pursuing pleasure.


I subscribe to the Epicurean style of hedonism wherein I seek a tranquil and simple life - free from pain and distraction. I don't pursue degeneracy or excess per se.

Inviting the government into your life is just providing avenues for pain to be delivered... And there is no upside.

It really is that simple.

Too simplistic to say "life is about pursuing pleasure". That definitely isn't what a lot of people's lives are about, it's your philosophical interpretation.

I'm going to guess you're not a fan of Jordan Peterson? lol

So in your hedonic life, do you have no intentions of a long lasting meaningful relationship with a woman (not marriage)? Do you apply the same reasoning to your male friends (i.e. that none should be trusted)?



Ugh side story for the thread. My now former employee is crazy and now in rehab. So other coworkers are now telling me stories. She was with this kind of loser guy for 17 years (she's no catch at all). Cheated on him with a patient who was married, would have him over while her bf was at work. Apparently that guy fucked his wife's sister when he was still with her "and they were all coked up". Despicable people. Cheating is horrible but to cheat with a family member, Dear God. My absolute nightmare would be for someone I loved to fuck my brother. Don't know how someone could get to that point where they do that. Best friend is close to as bad. So while I think Little Slice is extreme I am certainly quite jaded.

So whatcha gonna do with your girlfriend situation? It sounds like youre not sure yet.

I really don't know :\ I really do feel like this is what addiction feels like. Back in 2013 I was on thyroid drugs and came off a big diet and I was binging with 10,000 calories every 3 days. I remember we were planning on going on a cruise and I was talking about how there was just no way I wasn't going to binge, it wasn't even a conversation I was open to. Well now, I'm not on thyroid meds, not cutting etc...and that much food isn't even appealing to me.

Similarly, there are times I get so horny I feel like I can't even imagine not having wild sex with new young girls forever. I had a girl sending me videos yesterday that she liked and I got so into it. Me and my girl then had sex and afterwards I thought how ridiculous I was being and I really just wanted to have a nice night in with her, watch a movie, hangout etc....the discrepancy between horny me and post-cum me is crazy. Idk if it's the TRT or what but my brother seems to be similar and he's not on anything (except finasteride which would if anything bring libido down). When I diet my libido goes down and I prefer that.

I fell for another girl at one point, the shitty one I've mentioned here a few times who cheated on her ex with her boss. I have a history of being into girls who are a challenge. I never allow myself to date those girls seriously, but I've gotten infatuated with a number of girls who were "hard to get"....human psychology is a very easy thing to manipulate and I have often got caught up with girls I couldn't fully have (and the reason I couldn't fully have some of them is simply because I chose not to date them seriously for obvious reasons). Like even not that long ago I had a beautiful 22 year old nurse, unusually into me like would actually shake around me, smart, into lifting, didn't drink, etc....and while I enjoyed my time with her I wasn't even that into her into she cut things off (because she was still in a low mood after her bf of 3.5 years broke things off). Point is as long as I had her I was into her but not as into her as when it was a challenge. I'd call that a character flaw of mine, and probably part of why I haven't been as into my girlfriend compared to if she was more of a challenge. It didn't take much effort for me to get her, her ex boyfriends are complete chuds and she was drastically out of their league even at the time when she wasn't as hot. I don't want to hold that against her but again going back to my psychology I know that's in part true.

But anyway, to answer your question, I'm having a hard time letting go of my rampant sexuality. In part I suppose I'm enabling it by talking to these girls. Like guys who have porn addiction and it fucks up their psyche. I do wonder if I cut everyone else off for say 3 months how would I feel. Maybe it would slowly get better and I'd "recover". Though it feels like I'll always know I'll never hit those same highs again. Like a heroin addict knowing if he stops he'll never experience that level of pleasure again (I don't do drugs but I imagine that's the case).

So basically it's a question of "is this actually not the right relationship for me despite her being as perfect as anyone I've met" vs "this is the right person and I need to get help with my inability to stop flirting and wanting to fuck every reasonably attractive woman".

I also keep focusing on the age thing unfortunately. Again very superficial despite her being my age and attractive....thinking of all the younger women (and future younger women) out there.
 
Jordan Peterson has some relevant ideas... But I don't agree with everything he says.

As for relationships, even though I may have a relationship going with the girl, in my mind, it is already over. The glass cup has already been broken.

I just enjoy every moment of it while it continues to exist.

The relationship will only last as long as we both agree it will

All men must really internalize the truth of 'she's not yours, it's just your turn'

At any moment, she can leave you. So minimize the damage she is capable of doing.

I have a select few guys friends who I trust.

A very select few.
 
repeat post.
 
Im like this for men and women. I only have 2 really close friends left now. I had one other that I was real close with since childhood but he ended up turning into a weenie. Nothing lasts forever. My two guy friends I stlll have I have known for between 35 and 40 years, and maybe they will last. I too don't like to open myself up too much. Slice, one thing you may not have thought of, who are you going to leave your money to when you die someday? Not having any kids or a wife. I guess a charity?
 
Jordan Peterson has some relevant ideas... But I don't agree with everything he says.

As for relationships, even though I may have a relationship going with the girl, in my mind, it is already over. The glass cup has already been broken.

I just enjoy every moment of it while it continues to exist.

The relationship will only last as long as we both agree it will

All men must really internalize the truth of 'she's not yours, it's just your turn'

At any moment, she can leave you. So minimize the damage she is capable of doing.

I have a select few guys friends who I trust.

A very select few.

Im like this for men and women. I only have 2 really close friends left now. I had one other that I was real close with since childhood but he ended up turning into a weenie. Nothing lasts forever. My two guy friends I stlll have I have known for between 35 and 40 years, and maybe they will last. I too don't like to open myself up too much. Slice, one thing you may not have thought of, who are you going to leave your money to when you die someday? Not having any kids or a wife. I guess a charity?

Generally speaking, I am similar, which I think is part of why a few "life partners" is great if it's genuine. By life partner I do not mean spouse. I mean, for example, my brother is a "life partner"....we are very close and hopefully stay that way the remainder of our years on earth. My parents and sister, in a way, are life partners as well. And ideally, I would have a wife as a life partner and eventual kids as life partners (of course not trying to be friends with my kids but same idea of going through life together).

I have some close friends, and they're great guys, but it's not like I'd trust them with absolutely anything. Even my brother, as close as we are and as much as we talk about, I know he manipulates and lies to others and so I am always at least aware of that. So I don't think being on guard to an extent is at all a bad thing. Though it is nice to have people in life we can trust.

My gf...I really wholeheartedly trust her. But she should not trust me at this point :\

I do wonder Slice how much your lack of commitment would be portrayed and result in a lack of commitment from them as well. Do you tell the women you date your views? I can't imagine you tell them all of this or you'd only ever get noncommittal women, strengthening your beliefs.
 
Man I can't seem to think of anything else, it's affecting my productivity. I think because before I honestly just acted poorly and so I didn't really have to think about it. Now having to decide if I want to be exclusive with her or move on and be with others it's this huge deal. I've also never focused on age before. It was never an issue that we were the same age and now it's like this big problem in my mind because despite her looking great I keep wondering about the younger girls I could be with.

I was going to joke that I need therapy, but I actually have been speaking with a therapist since this whole issue came up and frankly I'm not sure I'm any further along. I'm as conflicted as ever.

We really expected to be having kids by now and talked about it for many years.
 
A therapist will not be able to help you, I have never trusted such expert advisors, what the hell do they know about your problem? Could he decide for you? NO!

You have an important existential problem, whatever you do, I think you will not be happy with the choice you make, lol.
 

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