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Ever thought about selank? Haven't tried personally,but looks promising.
I think you meant Wallys Black Market...The other day I went to Wal Mart and picked up a bottle of Xanax over the counter (OTC)... Oh wait...
My Dr prescribed me mirtazapine as a sleep aid, it's mild anti dep that is pretty much only used for insomnia. Non habit forming, no hangover, doesn't knock me out, still dream, it's been a huge help.
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I see theanine and 5 HTP mentioned here, which work pretty well.
for sleep I use TN's Sleep Caps on those nights I cannot make it to sleep due to anxiety or stress, it puts me in a really deep sleep. I do wake up a bit groggy in the AM though - it's the melatonin - which always leave me a bit tired.
True Nutrition | Sleep Aid 600mg Capsules (60 Capsules)
I've been doing 300mg 5-htp (3 caps) and 1 timed-release theanine at 200mg and slept the last two night almost 7 hours. That's gold! For me that's gold. I want to add melatonin and hopefully get the full 8-9 that I need to function normally and heal.Did not even know TN had these. Wish I knew the exact breakdown, specifically how much 5htp and melatonin per serving. They don't list it. Would be useful when stacking with extra 5htp or something of your own. I'm guessing 100mg 5htp at least (I'd hope) 200mg would be better.
Test causes me to be lethargic. Someone said they have increased anxiety. Fortunately I don't get that. Only with tren and halo. (both also give me bad acne)
I've been doing 300mg 5-htp (3 caps) and 1 timed-release theanine at 200mg and slept the last two night almost 7 hours. That's gold! For me that's gold. I want to add melatonin and hopefully get the full 8-9 that I need to function normally and heal.
No more of this 2 hours at a time clip and needing a nap and 11AM. Screw that.
I tried this after reading an article on theanine. I don't have much anxiety but insomnia is a big issue for me. But I do LOVE the theanine/caffeine stack in the morning. I leave the house with what for me is a mild "buzz". As you know, I'm not big on drugs so buzzed for me might not be buzzed for some but I'm more focused yet sort of zen too. Hard to explain. I've been off in my own world of reading about and recommending meds that I haven't realized how much the market has grown with natural supplements and foods to help with these problems. I think it's fantastic. No wonder the FDA is nervous.Hey OTH,
You're definitely on the right track with Theanine and 5-htp. Coming from someone who dealt with on and off anxiety, these two are the ones I've always come back to. If you have moderate-severe anxiety definitely bump your dose of Theanine up as 200mg is not that much at all. I would typically take 400mg in the morning (it's synergistic with caffeine) and then 400-600mg at night with 100-200mg of 5-htp. I also cycle out a good Rhodiola in the mornings 3 weeks on 3 weeks off. Other than these 3 supplements, I really haven't found anything else that is consistent. Theanine can get pricey, if you want to get a good deal for higher dosing check out PureBulk they have 500mg caps I believe.
Definitely experiment with your theanine dosage, some people even dose up to 1,000mg at a time. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised if you bump from 200 to atleast 400mg.
Why specifically did you indicate 3 weeks on and off with rhodiola? I know it needs to be cycled or rotated..but why that time schedule?Hey OTH,
You're definitely on the right track with Theanine and 5-htp. Coming from someone who dealt with on and off anxiety, these two are the ones I've always come back to. If you have moderate-severe anxiety definitely bump your dose of Theanine up as 200mg is not that much at all. I would typically take 400mg in the morning (it's synergistic with caffeine) and then 400-600mg at night with 100-200mg of 5-htp. I also cycle out a good Rhodiola in the mornings 3 weeks on 3 weeks off. Other than these 3 supplements, I really haven't found anything else that is consistent. Theanine can get pricey, if you want to get a good deal for higher dosing check out PureBulk they have 500mg caps I believe.
Definitely experiment with your theanine dosage, some people even dose up to 1,000mg at a time. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised if you bump from 200 to atleast 400mg.
I would also recommend a Melatonin supplement, a lot of people overdose these taking 3mg tablets each night. You really don't need this much and it can leave you feeling groggy in the morning. I'd recommend 300mcg-600mcg, I believe Sundesa? brand makes 300mcg tablets.
My final recommendation that has already been listed in this thread is Magnesium Citrate. A lot of people are deficient in magnesium and I've read that stress depletes it, I thought it was hogwash at first but I started taking 400mg Mag Citrate at night with my sleep stack and it definitely helped. When I had really bad anxiety during PCT I took 200mg in the morning as well and felt it really calmed my nerves.
In summary, coming from someone who's dealt with this for a long time and had it under control for a couple years now, my go to stack is:
Morning:
400mg L-Theanine
2x Rhodiola Capsules
100mg Caffeine
Night Time:
400mg Magnesium Citrate
100mg 5-HTP
300-600mcg Melatonin
400mg L-Theanine