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This is probably some of the sh*t that is putting pressure on IP. $323 for 40 green tabs!!! tells you they are full of sh*t in regards to that fourth pack they talk about.


Message: 4
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:11:49 -0500 (EST)
From: "David P. Dillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SPORTS: DRUG AND SUBSTANCE USE AND ABUSE : SPORTS: PERFORMANCE
ENHANCEMENT DRUGS: Anabolic Steroids Are Easily Purchased Without a
Prescription and Present Significant Challenges to Law Enforcement Officials
FROM The General Accountability Office of the United States Congress



SPORTS: DRUG AND SUBSTANCE USE AND ABUSE : SPORTS: PERFORMANCE ENHANCEMENT
DRUGS: Anabolic Steroids Are Easily Purchased Without a Prescription and
Present Significant Challenges to Law Enforcement Officials FROM The
General Accountability Office of the United States Congress


November 3, 2005
The Honorable Tom Davis
Chairman
The Honorable Henry Waxman
Ranking Minority Member
Committee on Government Reform
House of Representatives

Subject: Anabolic Steroids Are Easily Purchased Without a Prescription and
Present Significant Challenges to Law Enforcement Officials

<http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06243r.pdf>


This report responds to your request that we investigate whether anabolic
steroids can be purchased without a prescription and test whether such
purchases are easily made. You also asked us to identify common sources of
illegal anabolic steroids, and significant challenges law enforcement
officials encounter in investigating, prosecuting, and deterring criminal
anabolic steroid traffickers.

To complete this work, we made purchases through the Internet of anabolic
steroids commonly used by athletes and bodybuilders, and had tests
performed on the products purchased by the National Medical Services, a
commercial laboratory, and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). To
identify significant challenges law enforcement officials encounter in the
investigation and prosecution of illegal anabolic steroid traffickers, we
interviewed officials of federal agencies that have responsibility for
enforcement of laws relating to anabolic steroids--FDA, the Drug
Enforcement Administration (DEA), the Department of Justice (DOJ), and the
U.S. Customs and Border Patrol Agency (CBP)--- and we visited CBP
international mail facilities at two airports that receive significant
quantities of mail containing anabolic steroids, New Yorks Kennedy Airport
and at the Miami International Airport. Additionally, to obtain the
perspective of state and local officials on enforcement issues, we
interviewed officials of New Yorks Office of the Special Narcotics
Prosecutor, the only prosecutorial agency in the country that is
exclusively dedicated to the investigation and prosecution of felony drug
offenses. We also spoke with officials of the United States Sentencing
Commission and researched current and proposed legislation relating to
illegal anabolic steroid activity.

Summary

Our investigators easily obtained anabolic steroids without a prescription
through the Internet. After conducting Internet searches, they found
hundreds of Web sites offering anabolic steroids commonly used by athletes
and bodybuilders for sale. The investigators then used an e-mail account
in a fictitious name to place 22 orders. From these orders, we received 10
shipments of anabolic steroids; all were shipped from foreign countries.
We also received 4 shipments from within the United States but the
substances they contained, though marketed as anabolic steroids or other
muscle building products, were not anabolic steroids according to the
FDA.1 We are referring the evidence concerning our purchases to DEA and to
FDA for appropriate action.

The officials we spoke with told us that most anabolic steroids sold
illegally in the United States come from abroad, and that the Internet is
the most widely used means of buying and selling anabolic steroids
illegally. They also reported that, because of the foreign origin of the
steroids and the widespread use of the Internet in steroid trafficking,
extensive time and resources are usually required to investigate and
prosecute steroid cases. Further, the sheer volume of all types of imports
from abroad presents significant challenges in efforts to prevent anabolic
steroids from illegally entering the United States. Additionally, some
officials noted the relatively low sentences that result from application
of the federal sentencing guidelines to persons convicted of illegal
steroid trafficking.

Background

Anabolic steroids are synthetic forms of the male sex hormone testosterone
that can be taken orally, injected, or rubbed on the skin. Under U.S. law
they cannot be sold without a prescription, and are dispensed to treat
conditions associated with low testosterone levels, such as delayed
puberty or body wasting associated with AIDS. When used in combination
with exercise, training, and a high protein diet, anabolic steroids can
improve endurance and promote increased muscle size and strength. Because
of these effects, they are illicitly used as performance-enhancing drugs
by some athletes, bodybuilders, and others to improve competitiveness or
appearance.

However, steroid abuse can cause devastating side effects, including
liver, kidney, and heart disease; cancer, stroke, and behavioral changes
such as increased aggression and severe depression. The availability and
use of anabolic steroids in sports, particularly among adolescents, is a
growing concern. According to a National Institute of Health study, use of
steroids by American young people underwent a period of sharp rise in the
late 1990s, and continues to be at an all time high among 12th graders.
Moreover, in a recent study performed by the University of Michigan, more
than 42 percent of 12th graders reported that anabolic steroids are easy
or fairly easy to obtain without a prescription.

In 1990, Congress passed the Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 19902 adding
anabolic steroids to the federal schedule of controlled substances.3 The
act placed anabolic steroids on Schedule III of the Controlled Substance
Act and specifically identified 27 anabolic steroids. The maximum term of
imprisonment for a Schedule III controlled substance offense is 5 years,
or 10 years if the person has a prior felony drug offense conviction.4 The
Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2004 added additional anabolic steroids to
Schedule III of the Controlled Substance Act.

Purchases of Anabolic Steroids without a Prescription

Our investigators tested whether it would be easy for anyone who has
access to a computer to locate and make purchases from dealers who sell
anabolic steroids illegally.

To do this, they replicated what any athlete or bodybuilder of any age can
do on a home computer. First, they conducted Internet searches using the
words anabolic steroids, or the names of specific anabolic steroids that
DEA identified for us as commonly used by athletes and bodybuilders. As a
result, they found hundreds of Web sites offering anabolic steroids for
sale.

The investigators placed a total of 22 orders for anabolic steroids
through 22 of these Web sites that were selected randomly. Using an e-mail
account that they established in a fictitious name, the investigators
completed these orders and paid for them. As a result, we received 14
shipments. Of that number, 10 were anabolic steroids; the 4 additional
shipments contained substances that were not anabolic steroids.5

Steroids Received

The 10 orders of anabolic steroids we received were obtained through Web
sites that openly and boldly offer anabolic steroids for sale. Some of the
Web sites offer a variety of pharmaceutical drugs, while others sell
anabolic steroids exclusively. They typically offer private and
confidential sales of discretely shipped anabolic steroids that will shape
your body the way . . . you want it to look. Many sites offer dozens of
anabolic steroids for sale. They promote anabolic steroid use through
claims that they have good affects on the body, touting, for example, that
one product is a growth-promoting agent.

Other Web sites, including some of those from which we made purchases,
offer packages of different steroids for those who cycle or stack their
use of anabolic steroids. A cycle is a period of from 6 and 14 weeks of
steroid use, followed by a period of abstinence or gradual reduction in
use; stacking is using multiple anabolic steroids concurrently. The
packages offered by the Web sites are designed for a variety of different
users, from beginning muscle builders to advanced mass builders, to
customers interested in the ladies lean stack.

The Web sites do not indicate the country from which the steroids are
shipped, but we later learned from return addresses and postmarks on the
shipments that the anabolic steroids all came from outside the United
States. Although we placed these 10 orders at 10 different Web sites, the
shipments came from just three different countries: five were from
Trieste, Italy; four from Shanghai, China; and one from Athens, Greece.
The shipment from Athens, Greece came in a plain 5- by 6- inch envelope
bearing a return address label with an individuals name and address. It
contained one bottle of the anabolic steroid Testosterone Propionate in
liquid form. We paid $114.00 for the order using a credit card.

The five orders shipped from Trieste, Italy, came in plain 5 by 7 inch
envelopes bearing one of three different return address labels with an
individuals name and address. From one address we received two orders,
each containing 100 tablets of the anabolic steroid Methandrostenolone.
Using a credit card, we paid $109.20 for one of these orders and $107.90
for the other.

>From a different return address in Trieste we received two other packages,
each containing one bottle of the anabolic steroid Testosterone Cypionate
in liquid form. Using a credit card, we paid $120.90 for one of these
orders. For the other, we followed instructions sent through e-mail
communications from the dealer to wire $144.00 through Western Union to an
individual in Vienna, Austria. From the third address in Trieste we
received a package containing 100 tablets of Methandrostenolone. We paid
$117.00 for the order and wired the money through Western Union to an
individual in Salzburg, Austria, as instructed.

Each of the four shipments from Shanghai came in a plain 6 by 9 inch
envelope. Each envelope had a return address label bearing a different
individuals name and address.

We paid for each of them by credit card. One package contained 150 yellow
tablets of the anabolic steroid Stanozolol for which we paid $200.00. A
second package containing 20 tablets of Stanozolol was also received, and
we paid $97.00 for them. Additionally, we received a package containing
crushed green tablets of the anabolic steroid Oxymetholone and paid
$124.00 for them. The fourth package from Shanghai contained 40 green
tablets of Oxymetholone and cost $323.00.

Other Products Received

We also received four shipments from dealers in the United States through
Web sites that claimed to sell anabolic steroids or products that have the
muscle-building effects of anabolic steroids. However, according to FDA,
none of these shipments contained anabolic steroids. We have referred the
results of our investigation concerning these products to the FDA.


Challenges Faced by Law Enforcement Officials When Investigating and
Prosecuting Illegal Steroid Trafficking Cases

Law enforcement officials identified significant challenges in their
efforts to investigate, prosecute, and deter criminal anabolic steroid
traffickers. These challenges arise from the foreign origin of many
illegally sold steroids, the widespread use of the Internet in steroid
trafficking, the volume of mail CBP must screen in its efforts to prevent
entry of anabolic steroids into the United States, and the relatively low
sentences that result from application of the federal Sentencing
Guidelines to illegal steroid offenders.

Most Illegally Sold Anabolic Steroids Come From Abroad

The law enforcement officials we spoke to reported that, in their
experience, most anabolic steroids distributed illegally in the United
States come from abroad. The results of our test purchases tend to confirm
this. Larger illegal anabolic steroid dealers in the United States
frequently have multiple overseas sources of steroids. Significant
quantities of anabolic steroids come from Mexico, as well as other
countries such as Russia, Romania, and Greece.

There is a readily available supply of steroids worldwide because, in most
countries, anabolic steroids can be sold legally without a prescription.
Thus, many foreign distributors do not violate the laws of their own
country when they sell these substances to people in the United States. As
a result, U.S. law enforcement agencies have difficulty in obtaining
assistance from their foreign counterparts in investigations of such
distributors.

Law enforcement officials also identified smuggling of anabolic steroids
across international borders into the United States as an important part
of the illegal distribution network and described how smugglers typically
operate. A smuggler in the United States takes orders from steroid
customers in person, over the phone, or via e-mail. After obtaining
advance payment from customers, the smuggler will travel to the source
country, usually Mexico, to purchase the steroids. Some smugglers pay
someone else to perform this function or have a foreign source that will
ship the steroids. Smugglers who travel either carry the steroids back or
ship them to the United States. In Mexico and European countries,
smugglers usually buy anabolic steroids from pharmacies.
 
I was just reading an article over at bolex about a big BUST IN GREECE ,makes you wonder:confused:
 
I really don't understand why they care so much. OK, yea ban the stuff in 'natural' competitions and in the Olympics and in other organizations. But otherwise, just leave people alone! The pharmaceutical companies produce some very dangerous 'medications' that people take and doctors prescribe every single day. Take Vioxx, that stuff can easily give you a heart attack. Paxil has some very serious side effects. Most of the medication on the market today has side effects more serious than the condition it's used for. Yes, there are certainly side effects with gear but they're not nearly as serious as what the 'legal' stuff can do to you.
 
Sometimes we get a little paranoid

In terms of the DEA or other LE monitoring our boards, but historically that isn't a problem.

This is about as formal of an investigation you will ever see and they plugged "anabolic steroids " into a search engine to initiate it.

I'd love to know who the four orders within the US that didn't contain any AS were from?? But that could be BS and they never bothered to test becuase really they were emphasizing foriegn suppliers.

Allbeef

As far as a connection to Greece, I have the same suspicion about IP's Shanghai business. You can't get much more influential than at the congressional level.
 
whats really funny is that most DEA agents get their gear from the bust/raids they do. I know of one agent right now that is trying to get his pro card and he told me exactly how he gets his gear. Must be nice.
 
DEA agents getting their cycles from confiscated juice. This type of thing backs up my theory that our federal government is in collusion with foreign drug cartels. Think about it. If there were no drug prohibition laws, then drug cartels would be out of work, and so would DEA agents.
 
Are u fucking serious! look at this:

However, steroid abuse can cause devastating side effects, including
liver, kidney, and heart disease; cancer, stroke, and behavioral changes
such as increased aggression and severe depression.

i have heard worse side effects on commercials for prescription drugs on tv!
 
The pharmaceutical companies produce some very dangerous 'medications' that people take and doctors prescribe every single day.

I know I'll get bashed for this, but comparing drugs which people choose to use for purposes of vanity to drugs people use to save their LIFE (such as cancer drugs) is ridiculous. I think sometimes it's necessary to take a step back and think about what you are typing.
 
CuttingEdge said:
The pharmaceutical companies produce some very dangerous 'medications' that people take and doctors prescribe every single day.

I know I'll get bashed for this, but comparing drugs which people choose to use for purposes of vanity to drugs people use to save their LIFE (such as cancer drugs) is ridiculous. I think sometimes it's necessary to take a step back and think about what you are typing.

Yea, like when you should have thought about what you typed before you said...

"As far as "freaks" go, I would have to place that under guys that don't use. Anyone can turn themselve into a "freak" by spending a lot of money on gear and lifting moderate weights and letting time do the rest in spite of lax training methods/intensity..."

Don't be such an ass.
 
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Thats the same guy, who said about how anyone can be a freak-now saying that?
Just because some drugs are used for different purposes should not mean
AAS should be illegal because its used for vanity (like liposuction, breast enhancement, facelifts, nosejobs....which of course are all legal).

Dude in 4 posts you have managed to say some real dumb shit! :eek:
 
MikeS, were you aware that you have never worked hard in the gym and never had to eat alot of food to be where you are? It's all because of the AAS :D

CuttingEdge, seriously, get a grip and use your head. I'm assuming you lift, even further I'm assuming that you bodybuild. Why do you do it? To look better and become healthier and stronger? And these are not vanity reasons? Bodybuilding is a vanity sport. Have you ever taken a fat burner? How about creatine? Why did you take those things? In the end, it's all about vanity. Just don't take it too far and get yourself an ego, and I have a feeling that yours is bruised from seeing all these steroid users with great physiques and ease your ego by saying that the drugs do all the work so that you can feel better about yourself. It's true, alot of steroid users don't work out very hard and get tremendous gains. Furthermore though, alot of naturals don't work very hard and get tremendous gains.

Use your head, in trying to sound intelligent you're just making a fool outta yourself.
 
It's a hobby to be honest.

My mom has cancer. She's had it for 7 years. She's taken a BOATLOAD of drugs and has mananged to live much longer than doctors told her she would at the end of 1998...5 years longer so far.

Comparing her usage of drugs to help keep her ALIVE in the face of a terrible disease to a bodybuilder using steroids to try to gain size/lose bodyfat is about as assinine a statement as someone can possibly make. Bodybuilders use drugs not because they HAVE to but by CHOICE...for purposes of vanity. Period. Comparing that usage to someone who uses...say...cancer drugs to FIGHT A DISEASE that is literally eating them up on the inside...is ludicrous. Only someone who's completely lost and out of touch with reality would ever think of making a statement/comparison like that. The only thing the 2 have in common is that they use drugs. That is it.

Sorry for the rant, but it really pissed me off when I read that. I've watched her take all kinds of shit to try to save her life and reading someone comparing a situation like that (through their assertation that pharmacuetical companies haven't done any good to anyone or that they are evil and in cahoots with the FDA for wanting to take your steroids away) really pissed me off.
 
MikeS said:
Dude in 4 posts you have managed to say some real dumb shit! :eek:


Mike, I think you hit the nail on the head.


CuttingEdge said:
...Bodybuilders use drugs not because they HAVE to but by CHOICE...for purposes of vanity. Period....through their assertation that pharmacuetical companies haven't done any good to anyone or that they are evil and in cahoots with the FDA for wanting to take your steroids away really pissed me off...


CuttingEdge, are you sure you need to be on this board? I think you might find some other boards more fullfilling to your needs.
 
What do you feel would be the requirements for posting here? Should someone save their opinion just in case it offends someone else?
 
You guys are phucking up the thread

Okay so Barry Bonds and Carl Malone were pussies who compromised their workouts by using AS. That's BS, Carl stayed injury free for 18 years and he played hard and he was a leader in the weight room partially because of AS and partially becuase of who he was.

Now I know I am 25% stronger and have considerably more endurance ( not running ) lifting and my recoveries are faster and my sense of well being and confidence is greater and that lends to better performance in all areas of my life. My immune system is actually enhanced by AS and I am rarely if ever sick.

Now if you can get that ( which most can't ) from working hard, eating well, then you are the exception and not the rule. So you are weird. Because nobody else gets there without AS. ( i mean to the size and the strength and the sense of well being )

Now if you think I think that AS as we do it will be legalized, it won't!! No physician in their right mind would prescribe the dosages we use. They would lose their license. It aint going to happen.

People rely on antidepressents while you have other people saying it's a spiritual problem.

Who gives a phuck! Life is complex, and you die! It is surprising we do as well as we do, it may be an absense of a relationship with God that creates many of the problems. But until God wants to move something or somebody, people will use whatever they can to best function in life. Call it vanity or insecurity, we know all those qualities exist in you as well!

Allbeef
 
I'm still wondering at what point I said that there was something wrong with YOU or anyone else posting here actually USING AS.....maybe you can find that for me...

To each their own. I'm not your keeper or anyone else's on here, nor am I your maker. I don't care what any of you do or don't take. It does, however, piss me off that someone would be so narrow-minded that they would compare their use of steroids to a cancer patient or patient with heart disease using prescriptions. Priorities can't be more out of whack with that. It helps to keep things in perspective sometimes. Reality checks bounce often for people, however.
 

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