Palumbo Pregnancy Protocol

[Ability]

I see a decent amount of info on "Palumbo pct and pregnancy" protocols. Was wondering if anyone has info or experience, allot of the info I see is diffrent or contradicting

There are the envizion videos where correct me if I am wrong gives a list of drugs, but no doses or specifics.
Envizion pregnancy protocol
Including

50 mg clomid 2x day (I think this is the only dose given)
Hcg
Hmg
Nolva
Arimidex
B12.

I've also seen it quoted that Palumbo sees no need for Nolva in pct, although I know there can be some diffrence in a pregnancy specific protocol.

I've also seen the pregnancy protocol as
200 mg test cyp
1000 iu hcg mwf
75 iu hmg m f
Clomid 25 mg ed

Contradicting a quote from palumbo how moderate doses of test 250mg or so actually puts you in the worst situation sperm wise.


''Testosterone stimulates the sertoli cells in the testicles to produce sperm. In order for testosterone to accomplish this task, it needs to present at relatively high concentrations (i.e., it needs to ''bathe'' the sertoli cells in testosterone). Whenever you inject an exogenous source of testosterone, the leydig cells in your testicals stop producing endogenous testosterone. Whenthis occurs, this locally produced source of testosterone is no longer available to stimulate the sertoli. Say for instance, you inject 250 milligrams of testosterone enanthate per week. By the time this 250 milligrams gets into the bloodstream, it's been watered so significantly that the relative amount passing through the testicals winds up being negligible. However, as levels of exogenous testosterone injections rise to very high levels (over 1,000 milligrams per week), the relative amount passing through the testicals now increase to ample levels to cause spermatogenesis to occure once againg. When this happens, lo and behold, your fertile andbefore you know it you're girlfriend's pregnant."

And then the normal pct guidelines I see
Weeks 1-2 5 shots of hcg 2000iu each
Weeks 3-5 100mg clomid ed
Then Arimidex after this.

With all this being said I just made an apt w a urologist the Mrs n I are intrested in having a child. I have been blasting and cruising for a couple years now, more cruising then blasting lately. For the most part I have been using hcg almost always, at times more agressive then others, I went thru 10 vials of hmg at one piont as well as using clomid, triptorelin, toremifene at times. But overall I've been leaning more on the recovery end and we have not gotten pregnant.

I am currently concluding a period of blasting (cutting) and my apt is 5 weeks after finishing the cycle but I don't know if he will be doing just a consolation or a sperm analysis they say I will find out when I get there. That's where it gets tricky as to how I should proceed. My original plan was to go into
75 iu hmg mf
500 iu hcg mwf
Clomid ed 25
125 te per week
And go for a good sperm reading hopfully.

But now I don't kno if I should just do a pct with out hmg and come off test, or maybe just stay on 125mg test.
I'm trying to get the most accurate baseline type of reading. It also will be very helpful If i can get hmg hcg etc through insurance.

Any help or info is greatly appreciated.

 

[GodOfHormones]

I'm following this protocol;

Off drugs completely!

It's much better for sperm count to be off completly then
a trt dose...
It's proven sperm count is much better wich natural testosterone...


I'm doing;

Clomid 50mg ed
HCG 1000IU 3x week
M2 for libido

100mg clomid is to much. It will give you more side effects like a blurry
vision and will not stimulate your testes more then 50mg will do.


My balls already much bigger after 10 days :headbang:

If this is not going to work I add the HMG

If the HMG is not going to work I adopt a little monkey.

 

[anarchocapitalist]

I've been using steroids since 1995 and about a decade of consistently cycling my (now) ex wife and I decided on having a child. I tested infertile from heavy steroid use. Anyways I met with an endo who had me go off steroids completely and try a protocol similar to Swales. Smaller HCG shots frequently. Anyways nothing. Didn't work. So I tried a large 5000iu shot in three shots MWF and boom things kicked in an it took a few weeks later to get test and sperm levels normal. From this I thought small frequent shots don't work as well as a blast.

 

[mike036]

My protocol for male fertility that was given to me by a fertility specialist me and my wife were seeing was 3,333iu's hcg m-w-f and 75iu's hmg m and f for the first four weeks .you continue on the hcg until wife gets pregnant .this worked for me ,my sperm count was zero and my son is 13 months old now

 

[chinaboy]

I'm following this protocol;

Off drugs completely!

It's much better for sperm count to be off completly then
a trt dose...
It's proven sperm count is much better wich natural testosterone...


I'm doing;

Clomid 50mg ed
HCG 1000IU 3x week
M2 for libido

100mg clomid is to much. It will give you more side effects like a blurry
vision and will not stimulate your testes more then 50mg will do.


My balls already much bigger after 10 days :headbang:

If this is not going to work I add the HMG

If the HMG is not going to work I adopt a little monkey.

i swear clomid fucks with my eyes. I always said this and see very little people talk about it. I don't use it for this reason.

 

[jlm25]

My protocol for male fertility that was given to me by a fertility specialist me and my wife were seeing was 3,333iu's hcg m-w-f and 75iu's hmg m and f for the first four weeks .you continue on the hcg until wife gets pregnant .this worked for me ,my sperm count was zero and my son is 13 months old now

Were you on anything steroid wise ?

 

[mike036]

Were you on anything steroid wise ?

I stopped everything .not even trt .

 

[littlegiant1980]

Mike036, how long from the time you started protocol until you were able to conceive? We've discussed this via PM in the past, just forgot to ask that.

Thanks

 

[mike036]

Mike036, how long from the time you started protocol until you were able to conceive? We've discussed this via PM in the past, just forgot to ask that.

Thanks

It took about 9 months .my sperm count was up after a couple of months but no luck until that one lucky sperm made it to the egg.its not as easy as you think to get someone pregnant .the woman has to be ovulating and there is a small window of opportunity .

 

[Ability]

Glad to here the success stories.

Seems best bet is to get off juice or trt gues everyone is not as lucky as some in that regard.

Only thing that sucks for me is I'm waiting on this apt, and I'm not even sure they will do sperm analysis. Another thing that sucks is you have to lie to them even to get an apt. Had to tell them you have been trying for 2 years just to get the consultation. And my last hospital stay I learned telling the truth was the worst thing I ever did..
I just feel like the 6 weeks I wait for the apt, and the additional time I could wait for sperm analysis if they even do it is time wasted.
Think I'm just going to cruise in at 125mg of test e n 500 iu hcg a week of hcg until the apt.

 

[jlm25]

Glad to here the success stories.

Seems best bet is to get off juice or trt gues everyone is not as lucky as some in that regard.

Only thing that sucks for me is I'm waiting on this apt, and I'm not even sure they will do sperm analysis. Another thing that sucks is you have to lie to them even to get an apt. Had to tell them you have been trying for 2 years just to get the consultation. And my last hospital stay I learned telling the truth was the worst thing I ever did..
I just feel like the 6 weeks I wait for the apt, and the additional time I could wait for sperm analysis if they even do it is time wasted.
Think I'm just going to cruise in at 125mg of test e n 500 iu hcg a week of hcg until the apt.

Will your insurance cover HCG and HMG? I have been waiting to get into a doctor as well, but only so they can prescribe hcg/hmg. My insurance covers my prescriptions, but I'm not sure if those fall out of the line of normal coverage.

 

[mike036]

Will your insurance cover HCG and HMG? I have been waiting to get into a doctor as well, but only so they can prescribe hcg/hmg. My insurance covers my prescriptions, but I'm not sure if those fall out of the line of normal coverage.

My insurance only covered the first month of fertility medications .

 

[punjabipunjab]

Yo where you guys drinking? I drink here and there since I am off . I need my shiit to start working man this is annoying . Been off from everything. Since October last year been going to urologist. That mofo had no clue . My sperm count is 0. And it's been 9 months and still its zero. Been on hcg and clomid. I asked him to prescribe hmg but he wount. I think that is the key .

 

[NEMSZ]

Yo where you guys drinking? I drink here and there since I am off . I need my shiit to start working man this is annoying . Been off from everything. Since October last year been going to urologist. That mofo had no clue . My sperm count is 0. And it's been 9 months and still its zero. Been on hcg and clomid. I asked him to prescribe hmg but he wount. I think that is the key .

Old thread, so you should try making a new one if you’re looking for multiple opinions..

Personally I think HMG is a must.. I’ve never heard of anyone with that in their protocol not getting their girl pregnant, literally never. I even know of a few cases where guys stayed on TRT and ran HCG/HMG and got their girl prego... I don’t understand why your doc won’t prescribe it...

I have a buddy who did the HCG/HMG protocol and got his girl pregnant after a month of trying.. He was on Juice for years and did every drug under the sun on top of that, so it has to work lol...

There are sources that sell HCG and HMG so why not just grab it like that and use it? Fuck the doctor lol

 

[punjabipunjab]

Old thread, so you should try making a new one if you’re looking for multiple opinions..

Personally I think HMG is a must.. I’ve never heard of anyone with that in their protocol not getting their girl pregnant, literally never. I even know of a few cases where guys stayed on TRT and ran HCG/HMG and got their girl prego... I don’t understand why your doc won’t prescribe it...

I have a buddy who did the HCG/HMG protocol and got his girl pregnant after a month of trying.. He was on Juice for years and did every drug under the sun on top of that, so it has to work lol...

There are sources that sell HCG and HMG so why not just grab it like that and use it? Fuck the doctor lol

i am about to start a new thread man . freak need help baddd