Palumbo vs Viz - anyone else see this?

[hawkmoon]

Neither man is perfect, but Phil seemed determined to call out Dave on particular points.
The insulin argument was a good example of him making logic errors in an effort to make Dave look bad rather than further the discussion.

Very bad look iMHO.

 

[Massive G]

I watched it and all I can say is
BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!!!!!
HAHAHA

 

[Massive G]

Dave does make good points for lantus for those that have fasted glucose issues. It's often lost in the conversation when discussing large doses of GH some are taking. Myself have never had that problem if ever. To be fair hes talking about 10 to 20ius lantus and not the doses you see sometimes mentioned of 50 to 100 ius.

 

[maxrep24]

Phil would argue with God on what the right path is

 

[traininsane11]

Neither coach is even in the same league as the boards GOAT coach @Makcoach

 

[traininsane11]

Neither coach is even in the same league as the boards GOAT coach @Makcoach

** @MackCoach cant not properly tag the man, the myth, the legend

 

[Jefe]

This gave me PTSD flashbacks.

My dad argues just like Tupu.

I would rather do HIIT cardio for 2 hours than have to finish that video.

 

[Massive G]

Dave does make good points for lantus for those that have fasted glucose issues. It's often lost in the conversation when discussing large doses of GH some are taking. Myself have never had that problem if ever. To be fair hes talking about 10 to 20ius lantus and not the doses you see sometimes mentioned of 50 to 100 ius.

Listened to it. There is some good info by Dave. Toopoo well some of vets remember how insufferable he became. He loves any attention though and probably reading this thread.

 

[professionaldyel]

watching phil lose his mind in real time over this is hilarious IMO. I'm a big fan of the guy and if I could afford his coaching (idk the price but Im going to assume its $500+) i'd do it in a heart beat. I watched the entire "debate" and his only gotcha was asking dave what is the biological function of insulin and dave responding with how it works in bodybuilding.

 

[iwantmass]

Listened to it. There is some good info by Dave. Toopoo well some of vets remember how insufferable he became. He loves any attention though and probably reading this thread.

The last line speaks volumes. As much as a drama queen as the guy is, I'm surprised he has any knowledge of anabolic, etx at all. Estrogen seems to be his area of expertise.

 

[BreakinGenetics]

phil is a good dude hate him or love him hes very bright

 

[Bloodtrail]

To be fair hes talking about 10 to 20ius lantus and not the doses you see sometimes mentioned of 50 to 100 ius.

Do you believe this?

 

[Massive G]

Do you believe this?

Uhhhh yea. He stated in the video.
Search on Dave palimbos thoughts on lantus and it basically lays out his thoughts.
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[TheOtherOne55]

Uhhhh yea. He stated in the video.
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i think he's talking about using 50-100ius.

 

[Massive G]

That doesn't makes sense a normal pancreas doesn't make close to 100ius a day. But I am not going to argue as I don't use lantus or care too as my BG is fine in the am.

 

[Shelby]

I worked with Dave for 9 years, we used Humulin R and the highest it went was 10-12ius split over 2 shot a day (like 6-8 with meal 1, and 4ius maybe 5 hours later)

 

[Massive G]

I worked with Dave for 9 years, we used Humulin R and the highest it went was 10-12ius split over 2 shot a day (like 6-8 with meal 1, and 4ius maybe 5 hours later)

Ya he did mention he didn't like log especially preworkout like a lot of people take it. Some do both. I didn't have access to humalog so I used R around 2 hours before the workout and it covered both ends pre and post.

 

[yellowbird1]

I haven't watched it yet but not sure I can handle more Viz after watching him on Between 2 dumbbells with Skip Hill and Dr. Marv. Dr. Marv was trying to say a certain movement, I think rdl, would tear him up due to his past injuries and Viz would not let it go telling him to lower the weight further away from his body and he would be fine and could use less weight. Dr. Marv repeatedly said he couldn't do that. Viz is a know it all for sure.

 

[URODA]

I haven't watched it yet but not sure I can handle more Viz after watching him on Between 2 dumbbells with Skip Hill and Dr. Marv. Dr. Marv was trying to say a certain movement, I think rdl, would tear him up due to his past injuries and Viz would not let it go telling him to lower the weight further away from his body and he would be fine and could use less weight. Dr. Marv repeatedly said he couldn't do that. Viz is a know it all for sure.

Yeah so even more than a know it all he is know it all wrong, maybe yet same episode he, with the usual cringe smirk nodding like being impressed by how "muh smart" he sounds repeatedly could not get a really simple concept regarding weight distribution correct parroting how he trained people to put emphasis on the OUTER leg by shifting weight OUTWARDS on the foot where the exact opposite is correct shifting your weight inward by pushing with your big toes changes your vastus lateralis activation literally anybody who has basic understanding of biomechanics could run laps around him were there debate