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parabolin??
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|--[\\\\]>---------- As far as i know, it has been a LONG time since this stuff has been in production, i think jelfa may have made it back in the day, not sure. But most ppl just use Tren Accetate as a sub. basically the same thing.
|--[\\\\]>---------- As far as i know, it has been a LONG time since this stuff has been in production, i think jelfa may have made it back in the day, not sure. But most ppl just use Tren Accetate as a sub. basically the same thing.
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I love it!!!!!!!! i love all tren but para is my favorite works well for me.
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The 'real' Parabolin was made by Negma France, I believe. Clear amps red writing 76mg. Probably last of those were 10yrs ago or so. The powder is available and its being made into UG Parabolin by many...the stuff licks ass and less injections than tren acetate. The ester (hexy...something) is similar to enanthate.
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Wait so what is the difference with parabolin than fina? I know its both tren just diff esters. Are you sure its long acting like enanthate? Wouldnt a longer acting ester give it a different effect as far as water retention? (say your doin a show)
Why do poeple prefer parabolin?
Why do poeple prefer parabolin?
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TooPowerful4u said:
Trenbolone Depot 100 is a long-acting injectable steroid with a great effect on protein metabolism. Trenbolonel is one of the best effective anabolic compounds, promoting protein synthesis, as well as creating a positive nitrogen balance. It is an appetite stimulant and improves the conversion of proteins. In laboratory tests, it has been demonstrated that trenbolone increases protein and decreases fat deposition. It has proven to be an excellent product for promoting size and strength in the presence of adequate protein and calories, promotes body tissue building processes, and can reverse catabolism. Due to its particular ester, trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate is much slower-acting than trenabol acetate and also slower-acting than trenabol enanthate. The hexahydrobenzylcarbonate form than does not need to be injected as frequently as either one of those other trenabolones.
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|--[\\\]>---------- Thats why some ppl call it the 'poor man's GH'!
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|--[\\\]>---------- Thats why some ppl call it the 'poor man's GH'!
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OK lemme throw out a few more questions...
1. Even though its trembolone, it would be a good protcol say 152mg (76mg x 2cc) monday and friday for a total of 302mg per week? (is this a high enough dose or should it be higher than a normal fina dose since its slower acting?)
2. If you compare TEST enanthate to prop you get less water retention with prop since its faster acting and in and out. Same case with Parabolin or does it still carry the same hardening effects?
3. Im gonna assume you need to take it for a longer period of time than the traditional 6-8 weeks you could take fina, since it takes longer to hit your blood stream and reach stable levels. Would Parabolin be ok for say 12 weeks, or is it still as harsh on the body as fina?
1. Even though its trembolone, it would be a good protcol say 152mg (76mg x 2cc) monday and friday for a total of 302mg per week? (is this a high enough dose or should it be higher than a normal fina dose since its slower acting?)
2. If you compare TEST enanthate to prop you get less water retention with prop since its faster acting and in and out. Same case with Parabolin or does it still carry the same hardening effects?
3. Im gonna assume you need to take it for a longer period of time than the traditional 6-8 weeks you could take fina, since it takes longer to hit your blood stream and reach stable levels. Would Parabolin be ok for say 12 weeks, or is it still as harsh on the body as fina?
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Here is an older article on Parabolin.
I have always said people take waaaay to much trenbelone and have done so since it made it's way back on the market in the early 1990's via the pellet route. In the old days (1987) when finaject 30 mg per ml made by Hoescht Rousell, body builders took less than 300 mg per week. Pay attention to the dosing in the post below avg doses were less than 228 mg per week. Trenbelone of any type is very powerful. One advantage of PARA is less sides via night sweats and BP and aggression.
As with everything read learn and make up your own mind.
"Parabolan® (trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate)
This item was produced by Negma in France, and for some time was the last remaining injectable worldwide that contained the extremely potent steroid trenbolone. It was discontinued in 1997 however, and currently no real Parabolan can be found on the black market. This profile is still included for interest value, plus to help you understand the variety of Parabolan fakes that are still out there.
You may associate trenbolone with the long deceased Finajet, a veterinary steroid that was popular in the United States during the 1980's. Finajet contained trenbolone acetate, which was a very fast acting form of this drug (see: trenbolone acetate). Parabolan contains a much different ester, trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate. This ester extends the activity of the drug for more than two weeks, a more suitable design for human use. Parabolan is packaged only in ampules of l.5ml, one ampule per a box. Each ampule contains 76mg of trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate, equivalent to 50mg of trenbolone base (French drugs commonly make this calculation).
Trenbotone is a very potent androgen with strong anabolic activity. It is well suited for the rapid buildup of strength and muscle mass, usually providing the user exceptional results in a relatively short time period. The anabolic effect of this drug is often compared to popular bulking agents such as testosterone or Dianabol, with one very important difference. Trenbolone does not convert to estrogen. This is indeed a very unique compound since mass drugs, almost as a rule, will aromatize (or cause other estrogen related troubles) heavily. When we think of taking milder (regarding estrogen) steroids we usually expect much weaker muscle growth, but not so with Parabolan. Here we do not have to worry about estrogen related side effects, yet still have an extremely potent mass/strength drug. There is no noticeable water retention, so the mass gained during a cycle of Parabolan will be very hard and defined (providing fat levels are low enough). Gynecomastia is also not much of a concern, so there shouldn't be any need to addition an antiestrogen if trenbolone is the only steroid administered.
The high androgen level resulting from this steroid, in the absence is excess estrogen, can also accelerate the burning of body fat. The result should be a much tighter physique, hopefully without the need for extreme dieting. Parabolan can therefore help bring about an incredibly hard, ripped physique and is an ideal product for competitive bodybuilders. This is of course no secret, and when available on the market, Parabolan was the most sought after contest preparation drug. Now this it is no longer produced, acceptable substitutes for this purpose include of course veterinary trenbolone acetate preparations, as well as Halotestin®, Proviron® and Masteron (also recently discontinued).
Trenbolone is notably more potent than testosterone, and has an effect that is as much as three times as strong on a milligram for milligram basis. Likewise we can expect to see some level of androgenic side effects with use of this compound. Oily skin, aggressive behavior, acne and hair loss are therefore not uncommon during a cycle with this steroid. The androgenic nature of this drug of course makes it a very risky item for women to use, the chance for virilization symptoms extremely high with such a potent androgen. And since the hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester will extend the activity of this drug for weeks, blood levels can be very difficult to control. Since many of the masculinizing side effects associated with steroid use can be permanent, women considering the use of this compound should take extreme caution. It can be weeks before blood levels decline should a problem become evident.
Trenbolone is also much more potent than testosterone at suppressing endogenous androgen production. This makes clear the fact that estrogen is not the only culprit with negative feedback inhibition, as here there is no buildup of this hormone to report here. There is however some activity as a progestin inherent in this compound, as trenbolone is a 19-nortestosterone (nandrolone) derivative (a trait characteristic of these compounds). However it seems likely that much of its suppressive nature still stems from its powerful androgen action. With the strong impact trenbolone has on endogenous testosterone, of course the use of a stimulating drug such as HCG and/or Clomid®/Nolvadex® is recommended when concluding steroid therapy (a combination is preferred). Without their use it may take a prolonged period of time for the hormonal balance to resume, as the testes may at first not be able to normally respond to the resumed output of endogenous gonadotropins due to an atrophied state. Those who have used Parabolan regularly would often claim it to be indispensable. A weekly dosage of 3 ampules (228mg) was the most popular range when running a cycle, however many did find it highly effective in lesser amounts. Although a weekly administration schedule would prove sufficient, athletes usually injected a single ampule per application, the total amount spread evenly throughout the week. While Parabolan is quite potent when used alone, it was generally combined with other steroids for an even greater effect. Leading up to a show one could successfully add a non-aromatizing anabolic such as Winstrol® or Primobolan®. Such combinations will elicit a greater level density and hardness to the build, often proving dramatic to a stage appearance. We could also look for bulk with this drug, and addition stronger compounds like Dianabol or Testosterone. While the mass gain would be quite formidable with such a stack, some level of water retention would probably also accompany it. Moderately effective anabolics such Deca-Durabolin® or Equipoise® would be somewhat of a halfway point, providing extra strength and mass but without the same level of water bloat we see with more readily aromatized steroids.
The main problem with Parabolan historically was that it had always been extremely difficult to obtain. While it was manufactured the demand for this drug was huge. On top of that it was also often scarcely available because it was made only in limited lots in France. Now even in the former country of production, none can be found. Some counterfeits still circulate today, so it is important to stress the fact that you can no longer find legitimate Parabolan on the black market."
As Mike said above it is and has been available for some time ala UG route.
I have always said people take waaaay to much trenbelone and have done so since it made it's way back on the market in the early 1990's via the pellet route. In the old days (1987) when finaject 30 mg per ml made by Hoescht Rousell, body builders took less than 300 mg per week. Pay attention to the dosing in the post below avg doses were less than 228 mg per week. Trenbelone of any type is very powerful. One advantage of PARA is less sides via night sweats and BP and aggression.
As with everything read learn and make up your own mind.
"Parabolan® (trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate)
This item was produced by Negma in France, and for some time was the last remaining injectable worldwide that contained the extremely potent steroid trenbolone. It was discontinued in 1997 however, and currently no real Parabolan can be found on the black market. This profile is still included for interest value, plus to help you understand the variety of Parabolan fakes that are still out there.
You may associate trenbolone with the long deceased Finajet, a veterinary steroid that was popular in the United States during the 1980's. Finajet contained trenbolone acetate, which was a very fast acting form of this drug (see: trenbolone acetate). Parabolan contains a much different ester, trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate. This ester extends the activity of the drug for more than two weeks, a more suitable design for human use. Parabolan is packaged only in ampules of l.5ml, one ampule per a box. Each ampule contains 76mg of trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate, equivalent to 50mg of trenbolone base (French drugs commonly make this calculation).
Trenbotone is a very potent androgen with strong anabolic activity. It is well suited for the rapid buildup of strength and muscle mass, usually providing the user exceptional results in a relatively short time period. The anabolic effect of this drug is often compared to popular bulking agents such as testosterone or Dianabol, with one very important difference. Trenbolone does not convert to estrogen. This is indeed a very unique compound since mass drugs, almost as a rule, will aromatize (or cause other estrogen related troubles) heavily. When we think of taking milder (regarding estrogen) steroids we usually expect much weaker muscle growth, but not so with Parabolan. Here we do not have to worry about estrogen related side effects, yet still have an extremely potent mass/strength drug. There is no noticeable water retention, so the mass gained during a cycle of Parabolan will be very hard and defined (providing fat levels are low enough). Gynecomastia is also not much of a concern, so there shouldn't be any need to addition an antiestrogen if trenbolone is the only steroid administered.
The high androgen level resulting from this steroid, in the absence is excess estrogen, can also accelerate the burning of body fat. The result should be a much tighter physique, hopefully without the need for extreme dieting. Parabolan can therefore help bring about an incredibly hard, ripped physique and is an ideal product for competitive bodybuilders. This is of course no secret, and when available on the market, Parabolan was the most sought after contest preparation drug. Now this it is no longer produced, acceptable substitutes for this purpose include of course veterinary trenbolone acetate preparations, as well as Halotestin®, Proviron® and Masteron (also recently discontinued).
Trenbolone is notably more potent than testosterone, and has an effect that is as much as three times as strong on a milligram for milligram basis. Likewise we can expect to see some level of androgenic side effects with use of this compound. Oily skin, aggressive behavior, acne and hair loss are therefore not uncommon during a cycle with this steroid. The androgenic nature of this drug of course makes it a very risky item for women to use, the chance for virilization symptoms extremely high with such a potent androgen. And since the hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester will extend the activity of this drug for weeks, blood levels can be very difficult to control. Since many of the masculinizing side effects associated with steroid use can be permanent, women considering the use of this compound should take extreme caution. It can be weeks before blood levels decline should a problem become evident.
Trenbolone is also much more potent than testosterone at suppressing endogenous androgen production. This makes clear the fact that estrogen is not the only culprit with negative feedback inhibition, as here there is no buildup of this hormone to report here. There is however some activity as a progestin inherent in this compound, as trenbolone is a 19-nortestosterone (nandrolone) derivative (a trait characteristic of these compounds). However it seems likely that much of its suppressive nature still stems from its powerful androgen action. With the strong impact trenbolone has on endogenous testosterone, of course the use of a stimulating drug such as HCG and/or Clomid®/Nolvadex® is recommended when concluding steroid therapy (a combination is preferred). Without their use it may take a prolonged period of time for the hormonal balance to resume, as the testes may at first not be able to normally respond to the resumed output of endogenous gonadotropins due to an atrophied state. Those who have used Parabolan regularly would often claim it to be indispensable. A weekly dosage of 3 ampules (228mg) was the most popular range when running a cycle, however many did find it highly effective in lesser amounts. Although a weekly administration schedule would prove sufficient, athletes usually injected a single ampule per application, the total amount spread evenly throughout the week. While Parabolan is quite potent when used alone, it was generally combined with other steroids for an even greater effect. Leading up to a show one could successfully add a non-aromatizing anabolic such as Winstrol® or Primobolan®. Such combinations will elicit a greater level density and hardness to the build, often proving dramatic to a stage appearance. We could also look for bulk with this drug, and addition stronger compounds like Dianabol or Testosterone. While the mass gain would be quite formidable with such a stack, some level of water retention would probably also accompany it. Moderately effective anabolics such Deca-Durabolin® or Equipoise® would be somewhat of a halfway point, providing extra strength and mass but without the same level of water bloat we see with more readily aromatized steroids.
The main problem with Parabolan historically was that it had always been extremely difficult to obtain. While it was manufactured the demand for this drug was huge. On top of that it was also often scarcely available because it was made only in limited lots in France. Now even in the former country of production, none can be found. Some counterfeits still circulate today, so it is important to stress the fact that you can no longer find legitimate Parabolan on the black market."
As Mike said above it is and has been available for some time ala UG route.
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BD is the shit. I've taken both the acetate and the enanthate forms of their sauce. For those new to Tren I would recomend Tren Ace because it exits your body much quicker than enanthate. Tren, in any form is a pretty knargly drug, for those who take it and experience bad sides Acetate is the way to go for first time users. Based on your experience w/ the drug after that u can make up your own mind regarding use and dosage. I like to compare it to test. Test E/C are relatively long acting forms of the drug while test prop is is much shorter. Same goes w/ tren: tren ace would equal test prop, meanwhile tren E would equal test E/C. This might be too broad of an example but it's the easiest way way I can explain it. Any quesions feel free, that's what we're all for. To learn form one another.
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I know Tren Acetate is known to be very harsh on the system and should not be used for more than 6 weeks. Does the same go for parabolin? Its long acting so it is recommended to be used for at least 8-10 weeks right?
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bigbadasian said:
Yes that's correct. Understand. Fina aka Tren Acetate is used for slaughter cattle.. they are kept from exercise to keep the meat tender and for some strange reason they gain incredible muscle mass.... 16%!!!!!!!! and lose fat! We discussed this in depth at the old Got Fina Board and believe it stimulates IGF and HGH in the body besides being a general AAS. 16%!!!!!!!! I personally believe it's the best combo to include in one's arsenal. My body changes with this stuff in ways no other hormone has done for me.
Parabolin... mmmmmmmm is my fav.
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