Pavel Kirilenko - 2007 European Men's Championships

[Shelby]

Overall winner, Russian Pavel Kirilenko:

 

[MAINEVENT]

THAT is my goal! What a physique. I know there are alot of better physiques out there but i like the way this guy is put together. Thick muscle, round muscle bellies and hard as a rock..........NOT to forget about his small waist.

Any more info on him?

 

[Shelby]

lat spread from 2006 (second from left):

 

[bigbadasian]

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man this guy can hold his own! he out muscles the guys that are bigger than him! what is his weight?

 

[Shelby]

http://www.eastlabs.biz/article/153/SID=5688mtvgon1bmdk66ju8irr1i4

According to this he's 25 years old, about 5'9 or 5'10 and he's been competing most recently in the -100kg category (NPC heavyweight).

 

[b-boy]

man i like that guys build... he's put together well, flows nice and thick as shit bricks...LOL im a new fan!

 

[Shelby]

man i like that guys build... he's put together well, flows nice and thick as shit bricks...LOL im a new fan!

Bring your legs and conditioning up and you'll be giving him a run for his money!

 

[Northwatch619]

Hey Shelby,
Thanks for posting this pic and info. wow like B-Boy said, "new Fans".
Your right ME the muscle bellies are the full/roundest seen in a while. 25yrs old...I believe we'll see him state side at some point.

 

[flexmaster]

man, he looks awesome!

here's what i dont understand though, why do all the competitors in these european shows seem to be so much bigger ,harder, and drier than in our american shows??? i mean, look at every one of those guys and they are all in GREAT shape, with small tight waists, they would dominate our shows if they came over here. why is that? drugs, diet, training style...?

 

[Moen]

If he's only 25 then you have your answer right there

 

[lestatgear]

Very impressive physique.

 

[Shelby]

here's what i dont understand though, why do all the competitors in these european shows seem to be so much bigger ,harder, and drier than in our american shows??? i mean, look at every one of those guys and they are all in GREAT shape, with small tight waists, they would dominate our shows if they came over here. why is that? drugs, diet, training style...?

I believe this is somewhat of a misnomer. The pics you see from European shows are always from the very top level shows, similar to our Nationals (if not even bigger). If you look at pics from smaller shows in Europe, you'll find out-of-shape guys just like you will here in the states. You'll also find guys with ugly shapes and lack of conditioning at the bigger shows in Europe too, it's just that nobody posts or looks at their pics online.
Still, I think to a certain extent the top Europeans might be employing better (or at least different) training, diet and supplementation strategies than their American counterparts. Also, bodybuilding has a bigger following over there (public following) and there is more national pride in doing well, etc.. similar to the Olympics (the big shows have representatives from each country).

 

[jawbreakerkid]

I know it is impossible to know without seeing them side by side, but I would put good money down that this guy would have smoked the overall winner at the NA's.

 

[flexmaster]

I believe this is somewhat of a misnomer. The pics you see from European shows are always from the very top level shows, similar to our Nationals (if not even bigger). If you look at pics from smaller shows in Europe, you'll find out-of-shape guys just like you will here in the states. You'll also find guys with ugly shapes and lack of conditioning at the bigger shows in Europe too, it's just that nobody posts or looks at their pics online.
Still, I think to a certain extent the top Europeans might be employing better (or at least different) training, diet and supplementation strategies than their American counterparts. Also, bodybuilding has a bigger following over there (public following) and there is more national pride in doing well, etc.. similar to the Olympics (the big shows have representatives from each country).

ok, i can see that being the case. would you agree that maybe the quality of food over there is better than here? everything is so processed here in the US that it makes me wonder if some of the nutritional quality is being sacrificed. i have never been to europe but when i think about the food over there it seems to all be very organic and pretty much unprocessed.

 

[Shelby]

ok, i can see that being the case. would you agree that maybe the quality of food over there is better than here? everything is so processed here in the US that it makes me wonder if some of the nutritional quality is being sacrificed. i have never been to europe but when i think about the food over there it seems to all be very organic and pretty much unprocessed.

I've talked to some Eastern Europeans that have emigrated to the U.S. and they say the food is better and cheaper here.

 

[Shelby]

I bet if Erik Fankhouser was from Russia, people would say stuff like "wow, what are the Russians doing? How are they training calves? They must have some top secret leg training program".
I think it's just a myth we like to create, thinking that they are doing something different than us. We all have to train, diet, supplement wisely, etc... it's just that we aren't exposed to the Europeans so much, so they seem "exotic".

 

[finephysique]

I have been to the US and the food is a hell of a lot cheaper than over here and you have a lot more variety, supplements are much cheaper too. Gear is really cheap in Russia and readily available.
Bodybuilding is highly respected in Russia and throughout eastern Europe. The Czech team at this years NABBA world championships were amazing, the Russians and Polish always bring great teams. Strange thing is that they usually appear to one major show win it and never compete again.
Just like the US national shows there are only ever a couple of competitors that could really make it as pro's, most of the pictures from our European shows are of the class winners comparison, believe me there are plenty of also-rans competing even at continental and world level.

 

[Shelby]

I have been to the US and the food is a hell of a lot cheaper than over here and you have a lot more variety, supplements are much cheaper too. Gear is really cheap in Russia and readily available.
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Yes I'm sure it depends on what country we're talking about too, socioeconomic status, etc..
Stoil Stoilov (who won the middleweight class at last year's Jr Nats, and the Master's LHW class at this year's North Americans) told me that when he was living in Bulgaria he basically had to choose between spending money on good meat, or spending money on a gym membership. He said it was very hard to afford both.

 

[W8killa]

In the poorest eastern european countries, people will spend up to 50% of their income on food and in the USA it is close to 15%. A pound of lean beef here is like $4. Nowhere else will you find that. Also, we have the safest food supply in the world. But I hear in Poland OMNAs are real cheap!

 

[oldfella]

Hey Shelby, Thanks for putting that set of pics up. This guy is amazing. He has one of the better overall packages I have seen in a while. Also good to see that he has won over guys much larger and in great condition. The big guy next to him in the shot of three of then hitting side poses looks like the Late Andreas Munzer!