PCT after 4 years blast and cruise? Is it worth coming off. Is recovery possible.

[caedus]

The first year I did about 200 milligrams a week to 300mg was just testosterone, year 2 between 400 and 600 milligrams a week played with deca 400 mg 3 months on 3 months off, year 3 did 400 mg of test cyp and added EQ 400 3 MONTHS ON 3 MONTHS OFF, have always done complete blood panels every 6 months, all levels normal, test sits around 850 ng/DL these days @ year 4 just cruising at 150 mg test cyp once a week, 200-350 mg the next. Want to come off, but not sure if its worth it or if recovery is possible, not worried about limp dick lol, and I know I'm a dumbass for staying on so long, but this stuff has helped me so much. Diet is clean now and I've lost 40 lbs of fat, cardio is on point and I'm just looking for solid advice from anyone willing to give it....Bashers need not respond. Happy New Year bros!

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[TrinityD]

You can certainly PCT and recover from this. Although you were on for a long duration of time, you didn't use large amounts of highly suppressive anabolics, nor did you use very high amounts when you did your "blasts".

It is your decision as to whether or not you would like to be on TRT for life.

 

[caedus]

You can certainly PCT and recover from this. Although you were on for a long duration of time, you didn't use large amounts of highly suppressive anabolics, nor did you use very high amounts when you did your "blasts".

It is your decision as to whether or not you would like to be on TRT for life.

How long would recovery take? Any recommendations on protocol

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[flipper2012]

I did a simple PCT after a 3 year blast/cruise. 25mg extremestane, 50mg clomid, and cialis for 30 days. Then stopped everything. Was back to normal 4 months later and knocked up the wife(sperm count was zero). T levels are on the low side of normal now

 

[TT]

A year ago I came off after 10+ years of use. 6 of them were non-stop. In September my test was 252. Had another blood draw last week and its 384. It was sitting low for the whole year after I stopped but now it's going up. I did PCT in the beginning but it was of little help. It raised my test while clomid was active, but after 2 months off clomid it took a dive. So I recommend not to take any PCT as I lost faith in them. It is just artificial recovery and will just prolong your real recovery. I was told by a good endo that the recovery after 10 years might take up to 2 years. So give yourself enough time and don't panic and go TRT if your test doesn't go up in 6 months. I hope that's not your case, and you will recover quickly. My good friend was on for 5 years straight. Last 3 years was just test @250/week (pharm grade) and after stopping AAS he scored 490 just after 3 months off. I think you have good chances of nice recovery.

Good luck,

TT

 

[TrinityD]

I can not give you a definitive answer.
I have a feeling it will take you anywhere between 3-6 months. During this time, you will most likely have to overcome some "mental obstacles".
It will not be easy. That, I can assure you of.

I would not use any kind of PCT. I would simply wean yourself off of testosterone until you go cold turkey.

Something along the lines of...

Week1- 100mg/week
Week2- 75mg/week
Week3- 50mg/week
Week4- 25mg/week

Then absolutely nothing.
If you are having psychological issues during this time(which are warranted, by the way), please come back to the forum and get support from people. There are great people on this board that want to help you.

 

[chinaboy]

I agree. Come off slowly. The is nothing wrong with doing it crazy slow and drop 10-20mgs a week at the end. I have recently come off a 4 month cycle and tapered very slowly with success. I did use arimidex during the cycle and tapered off slowly as well.

 

[thehazzle]

Could always throw in peptides too for muscle maintenance

 

[Vanilla Mandingo]

I am by no means an Endo, but has anyone is this situation tried to come off very slowly, as in months? It seems like after years of use, it may be a good idea to drop dosage a small amount per month, which may give the body much less of a shock.

I am interested in the idea of after years of use, maybe drop to hrt and then drop @ 25 mgs off of weekly dosage every month. Just an idea, but when you have been on for so long, it seems to me that I would be better off if I come off slower than what most people do.

 

[TrinityD]

Way too dragged out.
get it over with.
wait 4-16 weeks and pull the cord depending on how long you were on.

 

[Bigd50]

Recovery is possible. To what degree is hard to say. Age will play a role in it and also your 4 years older than when you started down that road.

 

[Vanilla Mandingo]

Way too dragged out.
get it over with.
wait 4-16 weeks and pull the cord depending on how long you were on.

Last time I checked, 16 weeks was "months." I may stay on up to six months while reducing dosage, if I was on for many years. So how is two more months "way too dragged out"?

 

[caedus]

Thanks bros

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[caedus]

Last time I checked, 16 weeks was "months." I may stay on up to six months while reducing dosage, if I was on for many years. So how is two more months "way too dragged out"?

Recommended pct?

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[Erichuup]

I can not give you a definitive answer.
I have a feeling it will take you anywhere between 3-6 months. During this time, you will most likely have to overcome some "mental obstacles".
It will not be easy. That, I can assure you of.

I would not use any kind of PCT. I would simply wean yourself off of testosterone until you go cold turkey.

Something along the lines of...

Week1- 100mg/week
Week2- 75mg/week
Week3- 50mg/week
Week4- 25mg/week


Then absolutely nothing.
If you are having psychological issues during this time(which are warranted, by the way), please come back to the forum and get support from people. There are great people on this board that want to help you.

what he said no pct is needed i tried with and with out.
i feelt better with out the pct. and

comming off that is something i belive you must do every 6-9 month and be off for 3 month. then get back on the gear again.

when you come off
you will get fat
lose the pump looked
get weaker
lose endurance.

you will sleep better fell more healty gotta bump up the cardio a bit some times. i will not go overboard with the food. so drop the food a bit you will lose some mass any ways. and it will come back as soon you get back on the gear.

I Never got limped dick. my loaded got bigger week by week. your not as horny any more. but after 8-12 weeks i started to feel everything was getting normal

 

[flipper2012]

what he said no pct is needed i tried with and with out.

i feelt better with out the pct. and



comming off that is something i belive you must do every 6-9 month and be off for 3 month. then get back on the gear again.



when you come off

you will get fat

lose the pump looked

get weaker

lose endurance.



you will sleep better fell more healty gotta bump up the cardio a bit some times. i will not go overboard with the food. so drop the food a bit you will lose some mass any ways. and it will come back as soon you get back on the gear.



I Never got limped dick. my loaded got bigger week by week. your not as horny any more. but after 8-12 weeks i started to feel everything was getting normal

Spot on!