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Ive posted this over at AM, in hindsight wish I had have posted here first. anyway. here we go again, hope someone can chime in.
im about to disclose some sensitive info, ive read some pretty personal posts in the past by others so what the hell, its all anonymous i guess. and its very relevant to PCT. so here we go!
I'll try to sum this up as much as I can. When I was in my early 20's I tried to lift a friends car and for some reason I got a right testicle infection from it and lost that testicle! End of story history, no biggie I thought at the time.
Ok, so I’ve done a few cycles, like maybe 6, ok the first two or three were pretty uneducated without a good PCT if any, so I lost all gains BUT I did eventually bounce back.
Since then I’ve run an AI if needs be, I have tried straight nolva protocol / Toremifene / Clomid Nolva, also swales HCG protocol. I know when to come off long or short esters etc. Still an amateur with gear but know the cycle fundementals more or less. Using Test base etc.
Ok, so the problem I have always encountered is that I just don’t bounce back quick enough, i.e. Id been better off not to go ON at all... :-s my teste seems to atrophy on about the 4th to 5th week, I tried 500iu HCG still no change, i think i even shot 1000iu for this last cycle...
I’m now reading up on Naltrexone which sounds promising, it’s just that no PCT seems to work, period! Ok so maybe the only answer is to stay away from gear...
my last cycle (cutting) was Test Prop 100 EOD with tbol 70mg 8 weeks (which tests showed it gave me elevated AST ALT liver enzymes/pain btw) when I started clomid/nolva I started getting the pain so a bit confused at to which one caused it (ive been told it was unlikely clomid/nolva tho) so I dropped clomid/nolva with one week of missed PCT then went into Toremifene now I’m at 2 weeks, no size gained back on testicle yet but I think that’s normal.
test levels were in the low normal range pre cycle
so what do you guys think? is it simply because of the *cough* one testicle issue..?
anyway sorry for the blurb..
UPDATE: im back on clomid/nolva 100/20 and no pain to right of abdominals which is a releif.
im about to disclose some sensitive info, ive read some pretty personal posts in the past by others so what the hell, its all anonymous i guess. and its very relevant to PCT. so here we go!
I'll try to sum this up as much as I can. When I was in my early 20's I tried to lift a friends car and for some reason I got a right testicle infection from it and lost that testicle! End of story history, no biggie I thought at the time.
Ok, so I’ve done a few cycles, like maybe 6, ok the first two or three were pretty uneducated without a good PCT if any, so I lost all gains BUT I did eventually bounce back.
Since then I’ve run an AI if needs be, I have tried straight nolva protocol / Toremifene / Clomid Nolva, also swales HCG protocol. I know when to come off long or short esters etc. Still an amateur with gear but know the cycle fundementals more or less. Using Test base etc.
Ok, so the problem I have always encountered is that I just don’t bounce back quick enough, i.e. Id been better off not to go ON at all... :-s my teste seems to atrophy on about the 4th to 5th week, I tried 500iu HCG still no change, i think i even shot 1000iu for this last cycle...
I’m now reading up on Naltrexone which sounds promising, it’s just that no PCT seems to work, period! Ok so maybe the only answer is to stay away from gear...
my last cycle (cutting) was Test Prop 100 EOD with tbol 70mg 8 weeks (which tests showed it gave me elevated AST ALT liver enzymes/pain btw) when I started clomid/nolva I started getting the pain so a bit confused at to which one caused it (ive been told it was unlikely clomid/nolva tho) so I dropped clomid/nolva with one week of missed PCT then went into Toremifene now I’m at 2 weeks, no size gained back on testicle yet but I think that’s normal.
test levels were in the low normal range pre cycle
so what do you guys think? is it simply because of the *cough* one testicle issue..?
anyway sorry for the blurb..
UPDATE: im back on clomid/nolva 100/20 and no pain to right of abdominals which is a releif.