Pct or cruise advice

[Logg]

So I’m currently 6 weeks in on my first cycle which is test e 500, primo 400 , npp 200 which I will be going for 14-16 weeks depending on how I feel and my last blood test looks the only thing I’m confused about is wether or not I should pct or cruise I never been on trt before so my first experience with test is abusing it this cycle I don’t plan on cruising/blasting for more then 1-2 years I’m 26 years old and would like to have kids one day so if cruising is going to completely eliminate that chance then I think I’ll pct but I’d like to get some opinions on more experience people in this industry I plan on doing another cycle 14-16 after this one I’ve also read some people pct into a cruise and would like to know if that’s a good option for me as well and if pct is the best option what is the best protocol for pct to retain as much muscle gained from cycle as possible

 

[neutrino]

Hello and welcome to the forum.

1st: The whole point of PCT (as in PCT drugs) is to encourage/speed up the recovery of natural test production. Within this context, you can just completely eliminate the "pct into cruise" option. That does not even make any sense. Its like "trying to speed up to a stop" in your car.

2nd: There are countless instances of PED users getting their significant others pregnant, not just on a cruise phase, but even on heavy blast phases. This is an individual response type deal. You may lose your ability to have children, you may not. You are the only one that will know. Anyone that gives you guarantees in this aspect is lying to you. Chances are you will still be able to conceive BUT there are NO guarantees.

Given what you have said, my honest opinion is to just stay off PEDs all together.

 

[Logg]

Hello and welcome to the forum.

1st: The whole point of PCT (as in PCT drugs) is to encourage/speed up the recovery of natural test production. Within this context, you can just completely eliminate the "pct into cruise" option. That does not even make any sense. Its like "trying to speed up to a stop" in your car.

2nd: There are countless instances of PED users getting their significant others pregnant, not just on a cruise phase, but even on heavy blast phases. This is an individual response type deal. You may lose your ability to have children, you may not. You are the only one that will know. Anyone that gives you guarantees in this aspect is lying to you. Chances are you will still be able to conceive BUT there are NO guarantees.

Given what you have said, my honest opinion is to just stay off PEDs all together.

Could you elaborate on your opinion

 

[buck]

If you are going to stay on anabolics for up to 2 years you may have long term consequence or not no way to know. If long term health is your plan then coming off is most likely the better choice i think. If getting big is you prerequisite then stay on.

 

[neutrino]

Could you elaborate on your opinion

You said "would like to have kids one day so if cruising is going to completely eliminate that chance then I think I’ll pct". Point being here - its not cruising or blasting that can lead to infertility...its both. You may very well shut yourself down permanently doing what you already do. May not be the first cycle, may not be the 10th cycle, but it could be the 11th.

It appears that having children is a major priority for you - a priority that is far ahead of the PED lifestyle. I therefore suggest that just to be safe you stop all together because this is literally the only way you can guarantee that you can have kids one day....unless the cycle you are currently on ends up being the one that shuts you down. Nevertheless, there are fertility drugs that COULD help, but why take the risk.

There is no right or wrong answer here. The only thing that matters is what you find to be of highest importance to you.

 

[neutrino]

If you are going to stay on anabolics for up to 2 years you may have long term consequence or not no way to know. If long term health is your plan then coming off is most likely the better choice i think. If getting big is you prerequisite then stay on.

Precisely. There are plenty of anecdotes of people shutting themselves down after just one. There are also plenty of anecdotes of being shut down after multiple. Simultaneously there are anecdotes of people conceiving in the stressful and drug-heavy conditions deep into contest prep.

The major unknown here is which one of these groups do you fall into? Only one way to find out...or avoid finding out.

 

[buck]

Precisely. There are plenty of anecdotes of people shutting themselves down after just one. There are also plenty of anecdotes of being shut down after multiple. Simultaneously there are anecdotes of people conceiving in the stressful and drug-heavy conditions deep into contest prep.

The major unknown here is which one of these groups do you fall into? Only one way to find out...or avoid finding out.

I tend to agree. I tend to think that how strong a person health/immune system is plays a big role in such things. If a person goes years at a time without a day sick lets say then they will likely do better then one who catches everything that comes their way. But that is just my opinion.

 

[mexbeast]

So I’m currently 6 weeks in on my first cycle which is test e 500, primo 400 , npp 200 which I will be going for 14-16 weeks depending on how I feel and my last blood test looks the only thing I’m confused about is wether or not I should pct or cruise I never been on trt before so my first experience with test is abusing it this cycle I don’t plan on cruising/blasting for more then 1-2 years I’m 26 years old and would like to have kids one day so if cruising is going to completely eliminate that chance then I think I’ll pct but I’d like to get some opinions on more experience people in this industry I plan on doing another cycle 14-16 after this one I’ve also read some people pct into a cruise and would like to know if that’s a good option for me as well and if pct is the best option what is the best protocol for pct to retain as much muscle gained from cycle as possible

If you want to re store your hpt maybe you should stay away from nandrolone, I would personally pct and stay off for 14-16 weeks, you are young so you should be able to recover ok

 

[blazencruise]

If its your first cycle, IMO you would want to pct. That way you can get experience with gear and be able to decide after its over that this is the lifestyle you want. You can always hop back on and B&C. I'm a noob also though so what do i know...

 

[drafty_c]

So I’m currently 6 weeks in on my first cycle which is test e 500, primo 400 , npp 200 which I will be going for 14-16 weeks depending on how I feel and my last blood test looks the only thing I’m confused about is wether or not I should pct or cruise I never been on trt before so my first experience with test is abusing it this cycle I don’t plan on cruising/blasting for more then 1-2 years I’m 26 years old and would like to have kids one day so if cruising is going to completely eliminate that chance then I think I’ll pct but I’d like to get some opinions on more experience people in this industry I plan on doing another cycle 14-16 after this one I’ve also read some people pct into a cruise and would like to know if that’s a good option for me as well and if pct is the best option what is the best protocol for pct to retain as much muscle gained from cycle as possible

I’d steer clear of 'PCT into a cruise', that doesn't really make sense since the cruise will just shut you back down anyway. Since this is your first cycle and you're running Test, Primo, and NPP, your system is going to need a very solid recovery plan if you decide to come off. NPP can linger for a while, so keep that in mind for your PCT timing.