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PDE-5 Inhibitors and Bodybuilders

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PDE-5 Inhibitors and Bodybuilders
In 1986, scientists discovered that nitric oxide (NO) was a potent vasodilator and could improve circulation, heart health, and anything else that relied on optimal blood flow.

Researchers at Pfizer, with big, hand-rubbing plans, began experimenting with drugs called PDE-5 inhibitors that enhance and perpetuate NO's blood-vessel dilating effects. Their goal, at the time, was to find a treatment for angina. First up was a drug called sildenafil citrate, but drug trials showed that it was only modestly effective in treating the condition.

However, some of the researchers refused to say die and started looking at the notes detailing the drug's side effects. Holy moly, there it was: A lot of the test subjects confessed to being visited by the erection fairy a lot more often after taking the drug.

This observation caused Pfizer scientists to no doubt feel a little stirring in their own pants as they contemplated the financial prospects of such a drug. They rapidly switched gears and began pilot studies of sildenafil citrate's effects on erectile dysfunction.

It was, of course, a success and in 1996 they submitted a patent for the new drug, which they named Viagra. A couple of years later, Viagra was approved by the FDA.

Few drugs have had such a social impact on society. Old men, or even not-so-old men, could suddenly indulge in a part of life they thought was lost to them. But perhaps unexpectedly, much younger men also glommed onto the drug, as they also did with its chemical cousins Cialis and Levitra, which would arrive later.

They covet the drugs because they serve as a hedge against performance anxiety and reduce downtime between sexual episodes, but it turns out there are other reasons men, both young and old, might use these drugs and they're not only health related, but bodybuilding related, too.

In fact, there may be sufficient evidence to support the idea of taking these drugs every day, like vitamins or any other health-promotingsupplement.

What Erectile Dysfunction Drugs Do For Bodybuilders
PDE-5 Inhibitors Increase the "Pump"
The most elemental and basic effect of Viagra and its cousins is increased blood flow, not only to the heart and penis, but to all body parts, including muscles. More blood flow means a better pump from resistance exercise and subsequently, increased nutrient flow to muscles, which is a good thing.

PDE-5 Inhibitors Decrease Estrogen Levels
A 2005 study found that 10 mg. and 20 mg. doses of Cialis, taken an average of 10 times a month, significantly reduced estradiol levels, but only in men who didn't have too much body fat (those with a BMI of less than 27) (1). Men with more body fat have higher levels of aromatase and convert testosterone to estradiol with impunity, regardless of how much Cialis they pop.


PDE-5 Inhibitors Increase Testosterone Levels
A study of Viagra's effects on 140 low-testosterone men between the ages of 40 and 70 found that the drug boosted testosterone levels by about 100 clicks (2). While some of this rise in male hormone might be, as the study cited above implied, because some testosterone resisted being converted into estrogen, some of it was also apparently from increased testosterone production by the testes.

PDE-5 Inhibitors Increase Insulin Sensitivity
Viagra was shown to reduce diabetes-induced oxidative stress and improve insulin sensitivity. This experiment, unlike the others, was conducted on rats, but there's a decent chance it would work similarly in humans.

What Erectile Dysfunction Drugs Do For General Health
  • Cialis has been shown to quash symptoms of benign prostatic hypertrophy, like frequent urination. There's also some evidence that PDE-5 drugs improve prostate health in general.
  • Viagra has been shown to treat abnormally high blood pressure in the pulmonary arteries (known as pulmonary hypertension).
  • Despite early studies that didn't show much of an effect, Viagra and the other PDE-5 drugs have lately been shown to be beneficial in the treatment of angina, along with high blood pressure and other cardiovascular conditions.
How To Use This Info
Sporadic use of these drugs (less than 8 to 10 times a month) might not confer any long-lasting health effects. However, Cialis is currently approved for once-daily use, and it's reasonable to think that patients, young or old, who have such a prescription and are using it every day, are reaping some, if not all, of the above benefits.

However, if further research supports or adds to the list of positive research on these drugs, we might eventually get to the point where docs almost universally recommend the daily use of the drugs, just as they do with baby aspirin.
By: T-Nation

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References
  1. Greco EA, Pili M, Bruzziches R, Corona G, Spera G, Aversa A3. "Testosterone:Estradiol ratio changes associated with long-term tadalafil administration: a pilot study, " J Sex Med. 2006 Jul;3(4):716-722.
  2. Spitzer M, Bhasin S, Travison TG, Davda MN, Stroh H, Basaria S. "Sildenafil increases serum testosterone levels by a direct action on the testes,"Andrology. 2013 Nov;1(6):913-8.
  3. Milani E, Nikfar S, Khorasani R, Zamani MJ, Abdollahi M. "Reduction of diabetes-induced oxidative stress by phos- phodiesterase inhibitors in rats," Comp Biochem Physiol C Toxicol Pharmacol (2005).
 
Good post.

They have a host of benefits that are technically off label use... For example my uncle got a script for 5mg ed to help with his pulmonary hypertension. That stuff is magic.
 
5mg a day for BP, etc
10mg PWO
20mg for ED 60 min pre sex
 
I love Cialis AND Viagra.... Viagra really has more POP imo... but i get worse sides.... Headaches are hit or miss... Stuffy nose is a definite... Cialis, the stuffy nose isnt as bad and neither are the headaches.... But the integrity of the erection isn't the same.... IMO the generics are not the same... Ive run 100mg of a generic V(from a supplier here) and in comparison to 100mg of Phizer V and it was night and day...and i saw the testing on the generics which was spot on which i found odd.... all in all i prefer Viagra...
 
I get really red bloodshot eyes when I take Cialis. Anyone else?
I got debilitating head aches. I think that's a well documented side?

And like above, bad stuffy nose. Maybe that's related to the headache.
 
Viagra crushes me headache wise. Honestly, unusable for me.
But i always have some Cialis on hand. Personally, i don't use it preWO anymore tho.
I honestly think too many BBers are using Cialis every single day at too high of doses.
It CAN'T be good and i myself have seen some desensitization from using it too much.
 
PDE5i can facilitate as an immunomodulatory potential. Under the current pandemic there could be some benefits to daily low dose use.
 
I don’t use these drugs much. For me personally, Cialas is far more potent. I almost feel like I have to put my dick on ice. Viagra works well too but not the same for me. I sometimes take these drugs to working out and the pumps are insane.....not that I’m telling you guys anything new, right.
 
All of them fuck my sinuses/head up at even low doses. My unit responds well but its almost not worth it bc I feel like utter shit while the drug is active (headache/sinus pressure/irritated eyes). Never found a way around these sides unfortunately
 
All of them fuck my sinuses/head up at even low doses. My unit responds well but its almost not worth it bc I feel like utter shit while the drug is active (headache/sinus pressure/irritated eyes). Never found a way around these sides unfortunately
I only get sides over 10mg
 
i love 10mg cialis pre wo on bodyparts which i find tough in getting pump.

Btw, does cialis work on women(eg.,sexual arousal) ?
 
I take 10 mg of Cialis EOD and I don't notice any negative side effects. I don't notice any increase in muscle pumps either. But, goodness, I appreciate the associated woody that comes with it!
 

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