Peptides are beating on me

[triathloncoach]

Been on 100/100 Mod29 & G6 BID for about 6 weeks. About 3 weeks ago I added 2ius to my PM dose. I'm not certain what positive results I'm seeing, but I'm definitely retaining significant water, my hands are achy and swollen, my BP has increased and I'm generally lethargic. This is my first experience with peptides and/or gh so I'm guessing I'm taking way too much for my body. I'm going to take 2 or 3 days off and then go back to just my pm dose - providing I improve. If after a few days I'm still Ok I'll add back in the 2 ius at night.

Anyone else feeling washed out from the peptides? Is this a normal response to taking too much GH? I'm nearly 46 and I'm guessing I just went to aggressive with the dosing. Any thoughts or similar experiences out there?

I'm also nearly finishing a cycle of test ethan and deca. On prami and anast.

 

[papapumpsd]

I too experienced the sides you described when I dosed too high too quickly.

 

[Quad-smack]

Are you green-topping it?

 

[layinwood]

I'm dosing at 50cjc and 100ghrp three times per day, the only side I'm getting is the lethargy. I don't mind it though because before this I had a hard time sleeping. Now I sleep like a baby and wake feeling 100%, it's been atleast 10years since I've felt that way.

I should say I don't monitor my bp but I've never had issues so it's not something I worry about.

 

[triathloncoach]

GH use

I'm blue topping

 

[chris250]

Hey bro,

I havnt added in the HGH just yet (thats next week) but yeah, when I upped my peptide doses up to fast and to high, I got higher BP and was aching all over

 

[disgraziato]

Been on 100/100 Mod29 & G6 BID for about 6 weeks. About 3 weeks ago I added 2ius to my PM dose. I'm not certain what positive results I'm seeing, but I'm definitely retaining significant water, my hands are achy and swollen, my BP has increased and I'm generally lethargic. This is my first experience with peptides and/or gh so I'm guessing I'm taking way too much for my body. I'm going to take 2 or 3 days off and then go back to just my pm dose - providing I improve. If after a few days I'm still Ok I'll add back in the 2 ius at night.

Anyone else feeling washed out from the peptides? Is this a normal response to taking too much GH? I'm nearly 46 and I'm guessing I just went to aggressive with the dosing. Any thoughts or similar experiences out there?

I'm also nearly finishing a cycle of test ethan and deca. On prami and anast.

Its def. the exo gh thats compounding these issues IMO...try eliminating it and continue your peptide protocol see if that helps. Your gh levels are prolly spiking too much too fast, thus the sides. Just like Papa, I too had these same sides when I was running high doses grf/ghrp 3x's a day.
Oddly enough though, last 3 weeks I've restarted 100/200mcg 3x's a day without any sides...whats different?-I've dropped my bf since last time into single digits, thanks to EOD fasting.
Dat- I wonder if low bf diminishes side effects with Gh stimulation as it does with AAS administration???

 

[biochemist]

I'd cut one of them out. Sounds like combining the two is giving people blood pressure problems?

Why do you need both anyways? I'd go with GHRH over GHRP-6...

 

[DatBtrue]

Its def. the exo gh thats compounding these issues IMO...try eliminating it and continue your peptide protocol see if that helps. Your gh levels are prolly spiking too much too fast, thus the sides. Just like Papa, I too had these same sides when I was running high doses grf/ghrp 3x's a day.
Oddly enough though, last 3 weeks I've restarted 100/200mcg 3x's a day without any sides...whats different?-I've dropped my bf since last time into single digits, thanks to EOD fasting.
Dat- I wonder if low bf diminishes side effects with Gh stimulation as it does with AAS administration???

Yes I believe so. The side effect of edema comes about because the body is trying to keep blood pressure stable and it is usually effective at doing so. Increasing GH too much too fast doesn't give the body time to adapt.

This is very subjective and sometimes it may take longer periods of time to get acclimated.

 

[DatBtrue]

.....

I like your avatar.

"I'll do what I can to help y'all. But, the game's out there, and it's play or get played. That simple." - Omar Little​

My favorite quote was from the opening scene of season #1

"Life just be that way, I guess."​

Det. James 'Jimmy' McNulty: So your boy's name was what?

Kid: Snot.

Det. James 'Jimmy' McNulty: Called the guy "Snot"?

Kid: Snot Boogie.

Det. James 'Jimmy' McNulty: God. Snot Boogie. He like the name?

Kid: What?

Det. James 'Jimmy' McNulty: Snot Boogie?
[the kid does not answer]

Det. James 'Jimmy' McNulty: This kid, whose mama went to the trouble to christen him Omar Isaiah Betts... You know, he forgets his jacket, his nose starts running and some asshole, instead of giving him a Kleenex, he calls him "Snot". So he's Snot forever. Doesn't seem fair.

Kid: Life just be that way, I guess.

Det. James 'Jimmy' McNulty: So, who shot Snot?

Kid: I ain't goin' to no court... Mothafucka didn't have to put no cap in him though.

Det. James 'Jimmy' McNulty: Definitely not.

Kid: He coulda just whooped his ass like we always whoop his ass.

Det. James 'Jimmy' McNulty: I agree with you.

Kid: He killed Snot. Snot been doing the same shit since I don't know how long. You don't kill a man over some bullshit. I'm sayin', every Friday night in an alley behind the Cut Rate, we rollin' bones, you know? I mean all them boys, we roll till late.

Det. James 'Jimmy' McNulty: Alley crap game, right?

Kid: Like every time, Snot, he'd fade a few shooters, play it out till the pot's deep. Snatch and run.

Det. James 'Jimmy' McNulty: What, every time?

Kid: Couldn't help hisself.

Det. James 'Jimmy' McNulty: Let me understand. Every Friday night, you and your boys are shootin? crap, right? And every Friday night, your pal Snot Boogie... he'd wait till there's cash on the ground and he'd grab it and run away? You let him do that?

Kid: We'd catch him and beat his ass but ain't nobody ever go past that.

Det. James 'Jimmy' McNulty: I've gotta ask you: if every time Snot Boogie would grab the money and run away... why'd you even let him in the game?

Kid: What?

Det. James 'Jimmy' McNulty: Well, if every time, Snot Boogie stole the money, why'd you let him play?

Kid: Got to. It's America, man.

 

[EDED]

people will get sick of me saying this all the time but i will do so anyways, haha

feeling crappy sucks, it could be liver burden, adrenal or thyroid

high bp and edema (pitting/ non-pitting) should be looked at and see what is causing it.

dat, have you saved that article that our old friend LOL boba found at AM? regarding RAS and GH?

achy doesnt sound good, severe lethargy doesnt sound and high bp arent good either....pushing it through and feeling better probably means your body adjusted to it but who knows which organ had to compromise in order to compensate for GH beating up on thyroid to make t4 to t3 conversion, if your body cant handle that then adrenal gland will over work, people should read more about thyroid at thyroid websites to educate themselves with symptoms if you are not wiling to do blood work. something will compensate eitherway....if you were born with certain organs 'weak' and unable to shift easily to compensate then you get horribly ill (me) and thats from anything not just GH.

i agree with low dosing and very gradual increase in the dose, but seriously GH should be used for health benefit and not to become a freakazoid...better to spend more money on AAS in that regards. yes, big monster could chime in and ridicule me but im not sure high dose GH will be the answer to all.

people with sides should compare their symptoms with hypothryoid and adrenal insufficiency and see how they are very similar and corrective action should be taken.

another thing, sides from low/mod dose of gh/ or secretagogues are rare due to small percentage of people feeling it.

it probably has to do with age too.

better listen to your body and help it feel better instead of tough it out.