Peptides for opioid withdrawal?

[TrippplePPP]

I had worked for Spine docs for a period and we would wean people down like 10% of weekly dosage per 1-2 weeks. Discuss a plan before doing this. Sometimes switch to long acting versions to reduce dose as this is less addictive. I looked at it like dieting, slowly reduce and get used to the step by step. This seemed to work for some, mostly the people who desired getting off. I do recall another lady wanting to go back on because she knew she would turn to heroine if she kept up with cessation. My suggestion is to work with a doctor. That helps to commit and be accountable.

 

[gib68sg]

It’s gonna suck, there’s really no way around it, that first week is gonna be terrible but once you get past that it’s mostly mental, 12 step meetings work, I’m not saying he’s definitely gonna need that but coming from someone who’s been through it thats the only thing that worked. Suboxone, methadone and kratom are terrible ideas, Most of the people that tell you suboxone is great are the ones that are still on it after years. Suboxone works great to get people off the street but majority of people either stay on it because it makes them feel normal and they’re scared to come off or they taper off and go right back to the races

Yup I know a dude who literally goes fucking nuts if he can’t find his suboxone when it’s time to take it. Been at least 15 years he is on the stuff. He legit looks and acts like a junky needing a fix.

 

[Communion]

Suboxone. Definitely do so with a tapering schedule. I was on pills for years and used it to come off. Started with a strip a day and months later my last dose was probably about the size of 1/4 of a hole punch. The first day without suboxone I had a runny nose and felt like I was getting a cold but I was fine. When I hear that people have been on it for over a year it’s frustrating. It’s not a replacement for opiates, it’s a tool that you taper off of. Reading someone has been on for 15 years is crazy and I would definitely have a lot of questions for the “doctor” prescribing the stuff.

 

[sparks1420]

SR-17018 is a grey market research chem...look into it...it works

 

[Siggy]

Cerebrolysin 20 ml a day for five days has eliminated most withdral symptoms according to leo and longevity as well as quite a few reddit posts.

Who do you think killed Leo?

 

[whacked]

SR-17018 is a grey market research chem...look into it...it works

I just read about it. Fascinating stuff

I don’t have any rec or opiate use or dependency issues. I was just curious as I know several people on Suboxone.

Thanks for posting this

 

[Thahn]

How long has he been on the pain killers for?

Hopefully people here are getting carried away as its not a full blown heroin addiction.

I did 7 months of daily opiate use.. started on prescription then black market pills. I came off and yeah it was horrible but i basically just spent a week in bed with some edibles, a couple of lorazapam and a fan and just suffered in silence. Yeah it was bad but i thought i would try that first before jumping onto something else addictive

 

[Bio]

I would have him look into Naltrexone with his Dr. I will say that I have heard persons who were heavy weed users and boozers who have lost the urge after using Retatrutide for a while.

He wouldn't want to use Naltrexone off the bat. It kicks the opiate off of the receptor and causes immediate withdrawal. Suboxone and maybe a very short term anti-depressant would be good. Gabapentin can also help, but on its own it won't stop withdrawal.

 

[Poonami]

He wouldn't want to use Naltrexone off the bat. It kicks the opiate off of the receptor and causes immediate withdrawal. Suboxone and maybe a very short term anti-depressant would be good. Gabapentin can also help, but on its own it won't stop withdrawal.

This is exactly the combination they gave me in rehab. It works but I was in pretty deep so it literally took over 3 weeks for my acutes to fully disappear. Hopefully PAWS doesn’t last too long.

I only used a small amount of subs for 2 weeks though. Sick and tired of withdrawing so I knew better than to stay on the subs. It definitely softens the landing though.

 

[specter]

Who do you think killed Leo?

Wut an absolute left turn

 

[iron lifter]

i think he said 2 months he was on total but he will start the tappering process first 10 percent every 3 days and than try to come off.

 

[King-kong2]

I have a friend who's trying to come off painkillers. He was on for months after the accident. He wanted to switch to kratom and taper off that so he doesn't have such bad withdrawals. I've been looking into some of the newer peptides. Does anyone know if any peptides can assist or be beneficial during this withdrawal period?

thanks

As others said. Get suboxone strips. However docs will have u believe you need several strips a day for years.

All he needs is a third of a strip every 10-12 hours. And drop that dose down over a six week period. To zero.

Unless he was getting his oxys off the street. They have fent mixed in. If that’s the case - those cling to your receptors baaaaad. He will be dry heaving for 3-4 days even with subs.

Place in Michigan will overnight detox him. But it’s like 8-10k. He will still be off a few weeks. That fent is what’s destroying people. In order to feel normal you need it.
Recap
Regular scrip opiates can easily be stopped. Cold turkey. It sucks but it’s easily doable.
If he was taking 5mg he likely doesn’t even need subs. 4-5 30s a day - subs.
Street oxy with fent. - they all have fent - Detox or only take prescribed for a month - then subs.

I know someone who can take 6-10 oxy 30s and barely feel it.

Also if he was eating them or snorting them see above. If he was bootin them I’d recommend rehab.

 

[Thahn]

As others said. Get suboxone strips. However docs will have u believe you need several strips a day for years.

All he needs is a third of a strip every 10-12 hours. And drop that dose down over a six week period. To zero.

Unless he was getting his oxys off the street. They have fent mixed in. If that’s the case - those cling to your receptors baaaaad. He will be dry heaving for 3-4 days even with subs.

Place in Michigan will overnight detox him. But it’s like 8-10k. He will still be off a few weeks. That fent is what’s destroying people. In order to feel normal you need it.
Recap
Regular scrip opiates can easily be stopped. Cold turkey. It sucks but it’s easily doable.
If he was taking 5mg he likely doesn’t even need subs. 4-5 30s a day - subs.
Street oxy with fent. - they all have fent - Detox or only take prescribed for a month - then subs.

I know someone who can take 6-10 oxy 30s and barely feel it.

Also if he was eating them or snorting them see above. If he was bootin them I’d recommend rehab.

The guy has only been on oxys 2 months... Cold turkey is the way

 

[King-kong2]

The guy has only been on oxys 2 months... Cold turkey is the way

Sorry. Missed that. Unless off the street fent laced. No reason can’t go cold turkey. Problem is the internet will have people thinkin they will die if stopped. So much misinformation.

 

[pimpman]

He wouldn't want to use Naltrexone off the bat. It kicks the opiate off of the receptor and causes immediate withdrawal. Suboxone and maybe a very short term anti-depressant would be good. Gabapentin can also help, but on its own it won't stop withdrawal.

Gabapantin was a life saver for me. The pain Dr had me on opioids for almost over 6 years. You become a prisoner to those pills.

One day I said no more. Walked into my appointment for refills and told them I don’t want any and quit cold turkey. They still insisted to taper me off because withdrawal would be horrible. I told them I don’t care.Took gabapantin and withdrawals was as bad. Wasn’t great but a lot better.

First week was the worst but after that no big deal. One of the best decisions I’ve ever made.

 

[3BILLS]

Gabapantin was a life saver for me. The pain Dr had me on opioids for almost over 6 years. You become a prisoner to those pills.

One day I said no more. Walked into my appointment for refills and told them I don’t want any and quit cold turkey. They still insisted to taper me off because withdrawal would be horrible. I told them I don’t care.Took gabapantin and withdrawals was as bad. Wasn’t great but a lot better.

First week was the worst but after that no big deal. One of the best decisions I’ve ever made.

I've heard the withdrawals from gabapantin can be just as bad ?

 

[iron lifter]

Gabapantin was a life saver for me. The pain Dr had me on opioids for almost over 6 years. You become a prisoner to those pills.

One day I said no more. Walked into my appointment for refills and told them I don’t want any and quit cold turkey. They still insisted to taper me off because withdrawal would be horrible. I told them I don’t care.Took gabapantin and withdrawals was as bad. Wasn’t great but a lot better.

First week was the worst but after that no big deal. One of the best decisions I’ve ever made.

hw did you take the gabapentin like your protocol you can suggest? did you take them for the RLS that you get and helps with anxiety and sleep?

 

[pimpman]

I've heard the withdrawals from gabapantin can be just as bad ?

Yes you are right I was going to mention that and I forgot with my rant lol. But yes if you use it for long time is very addictive and withdrawal is probably even worse. Plus it’s connect with causing dementia as well.

But if it’s used for just few weeks I say 3,at the most even less it’s plenty to make withdraws much easier. Glad you brought that point up.

 

[pimpman]

hw did you take the gabapentin like your protocol you can suggest? did you take them for the RLS that you get and helps with anxiety and sleep?

Man I was taking between 1200mg to 1800mg all at one time. Depending on how I felt that day. I always started with the 1200mg and if after a while I felt uneasy I add the rest to reach the 1800mg.

For me I never got the runs that you get from withdraws. Definitely no nausea or vomiting. And it takes rls completely away.

I would still get a bit of anxiety but to be fair I have always suffered from anxiety and panic attacks. So I get scripted med for it so I lucked out. Gabapantin made withdrawal so easy. That if you are not strong enough you will get back on opioid because you know gabapantin will make withdrawal barely uncomfortable.

I know a few people that would constantly do that. Once they couldn’t hook up with the opioid. They get on the gabapantin cruise pretty easy till they can hook up opioids again. So you really want to get off for good. Because I’m telling you gabapantin is like a cheat way to get off.

Oh and sleep that makes you very sleepy

 

[iron lifter]

Man I was taking between 1200mg to 1800mg all at one time. Depending on how I felt that day. I always started with the 1200mg and if after a while I felt uneasy I add the rest to reach the 1800mg.

For me I never got the runs that you get from withdraws. Definitely no nausea or vomiting. And it takes rls completely away.

I would still get a bit of anxiety but to be fair I have always suffered from anxiety and panic attacks. So I get scripted med for it so I lucked out. Gabapantin made withdrawal so easy. That if you are not strong enough you will get back on opioid because you know gabapantin will make withdrawal barely uncomfortable.

I know a few people that would constantly do that. Once they couldn’t hook up with the opioid. They get on the gabapantin cruise pretty easy till they can hook up opioids again. So you really want to get off for good. Because I’m telling you gabapantin is like a cheat way to get off.

Oh and sleep that makes you very sleepy

wow at that dose, can't it cause respiratory depression? i figured the average dose was 300-600mg