Perfect clean mass cycle, what would you do?

[Designbuilt]

OK, Hypothetically speaking, if you lived in a country where this was legal, and you wanted to get on a great cycle to add CLEAN mass... Let's say that you're close to your best shape ever now... Big, very lean, visible abs, vascular and pretty strong, considering that you've been dieting for months... But you wanted to put on very good weight and bring up the weak body parts... So you want to lift heavy, but continue to eat very clean, you can call it dieting but with more calories... Would you do this:

10 weeks:

200mg Anadrol/day (one month - 6 weeks tops)
800mg Primobolan/ Week
1000mg Sustanon/ week
50-100mg proviron/day

Or

50-150mg Anadrol/day (6-8 weeks)
NPP Dose tbd.
1000mg. sustanon/ week
50-100mg proviron/day

OR would you use

Anadrol
NPP Dose Tbd.
EQ 600-800mg/week
1000mg. sust per week
50-100mg prov./day

Possibly add in Cybergoline and Arimidex, if needed...


Or would you go with regular Nandrolone Deca? This user doesn't really want to touch tren, since he's been on it for a few weeks already and wants to discontinue it...

(The person using this does very well from sustanon, stays hard and responds very well in general)

Again, the goals are to stay lean an gain very clean mass...

 

[Gunsmith]

NPP 400mg/week
EQ 600mg/week
800mg. sust per week
50 prov./day
12.5mg Aromisin/day

That would be my suggestion , those doses should add some decient gains , I'd suggest 2iu-4iu a day before adding to much more AAS

 

[Designbuilt]

NPP 400mg/week
EQ 600mg/week
800mg. sust per week
50 prov./day
12.5mg Aromisin/day

That would be my suggestion , those doses should add some decient gains , I'd suggest 2iu-4iu a day before adding to much more AAS

That sounds pretty gook, but the reason anadrol was added, is because this guy always did well off it and I heard that taking while you're lean is like magic... That's actually the purpose of the cycle but Sustanon and an anabolic would be a great supporting role to it... I like NPP because it's fast, and EQ together might be a good way to go, I like your numbers, they sound pretty good and the gh is also a good idea... Thanks...

 

[Gunsmith]

if it were me I'd do

400mg , test/wk (whatever kind)
400mg , mast/wk
400mg , EQ/wk
4iu HGH /ED split in 2 doses

after 4-5 weeks add 100mg to each , then again in 4-5 weeks and so on

I've never run Abombs or NPP so i can't comment on how well they work but have heard it has sort of he same results as tren

 

[itrain]

i like the adrol npp and eq

suggestion

adrol 100 (if using pharm grade if not 200)
eq under 1g no benefit more than that
npp under 1g
test what ever you feel
(i dont think proviron is neccessary)

ancillairies as needed check your blood work

eq makes you hungry npp gives strength fullness, adrol gives pumps fullness

nice cycle i would add tren tho if it were me

 

[MightyJohn]

EQ or Adrol 900-1200
Tren(whatever dose You're confortable doing)
Test 200-400
GH 2-3iu
Adex 1/2-1mg eod

Just a thought, the route I'd go if looking to transform, gain yet stay lean, with the dosages You've already mentioned

 

[portman1]

My plan for my next lean mass cycle is..

75mg tbol
600 eq
600 NPP
600 prop
12.5 asin ed

 

[ajdonutz]

My plan for my next lean mass cycle is..

75mg tbol
600 eq
600 prop
600 sust
12.5 asin ed

Why prop AND sust..?

 

[portman1]

Why prop AND sust..?

Whoops..was supposed to be npp and not sust. Fixed

 

[james caan]

Just posting a cycle that worked very well for me in the past...again this worked for me (we all respond differently).

Test prop 75mg ed weeks 1-4 (weeks 11-14)
Test enan 750mg weeks 1-10
Tren ace 50mg ed weeks 1-4 (weeks 11-14)
Tren enan 400mg weeks 1-10
Winny 50mg ed weeks 11-14
4 i.u Jins throughout the cycle 5 on 2 off (and beyond, 6 months total)

One of my favorite cycles, great gains!!!!

 

[275bills]

I would use test, gh and slin . Nothing fancy

 

[james caan]

OK, Hypothetically speaking, if you lived in a country where this was legal, and you wanted to get on a great cycle to add CLEAN mass... Let's say that you're close to your best shape ever now... Big, very lean, visible abs, vascular and pretty strong, considering that you've been dieting for months... But you wanted to put on very good weight and bring up the weak body parts... So you want to lift heavy, but continue to eat very clean, you can call it dieting but with more calories... Would you do this:

10 weeks:

200mg Anadrol/day (one month - 6 weeks tops)
800mg Primobolan/ Week
1000mg Sustanon/ week
50-100mg proviron/day

Or

50-150mg Anadrol/day (6-8 weeks)
NPP Dose tbd.
1000mg. sustanon/ week
50-100mg proviron/day

OR would you use

Anadrol
NPP Dose Tbd.
EQ 600-800mg/week
1000mg. sust per week
50-100mg prov./day

Possibly add in Cybergoline and Arimidex, if needed...


Or would you go with regular Nandrolone Deca? This user doesn't really want to touch tren, since he's been on it for a few weeks already and wants to discontinue it...

(The person using this does very well from sustanon, stays hard and responds very well in general)

Again, the goals are to stay lean an gain very clean mass...

Adrol 100mg ed weeks 1-4 (never went over 4 weeks, maybe 1 time)
NPP 400mg weeks 1-10
sust 750mg (250mg m-w-f) weeks 1-10
Proviron 50mg ed weeks 1-10

might be "bro science" but i never used EQ for less than 14-16 weeks, and you stated 10 weeks only, so i would leave EQ out.

 

[portman1]

forgive my ignorance, but what is NPP?

nandrolone phenyl prop

In a nut shell, fast acting Deca

 

[Designbuilt]

Update:

This guy was using the following before and up to this point:

Tren acetate about 100mg EOD
Masteron Prop 100mg EOD
Winstrol Inj. 100mg EOD

Winstrol Oral 100mg ED
Proviron 50mg/day

He's at about 90% competition shape and about 18lbs heavier than his last show, which was 3 years ago... So he decided to continue the same cycle, but take out the winstrol oral and replace it with Halotestin oral at 20mg/day... Add in Arimidex at 12.5 to 25mg/day... Possibly add in Cybergoline, Clen and T-3...

Keep every thing else about the same for 1 more month to get completely shredded (might as well finish what he started) Not only that, he has a few photoshoots lined up that can potentially lead to something very big, like playgirl... So that's taking priority now...


Then get blood work done, maybe some PCT, definitely some liver and kidney detox and then go into the cycle previously mentioned...

 

[james caan]

I'm set in my ways i guess, i always add Test in all my cycles, change the dosages, but always use test. So only thing i would change is adding Test prop, and instead of 100mg eod, i would go with 50-75mg ed...if trying to keep dosages on the lower side. I don't mind daily shots ( obviously since test susp is my favorite )

 

[bieberhole69]

I am thinking of my next clean blast...

test E 500mg / wk 1-7 (will be starting from a cruise, so not worried about length here)
NPP 400mg / wk 1-8
dbol 30mg / day wk 1-4

then switch gears

test e 200mg / wk 8-15 (I don't fare well will more test than this & tren)
tren A 350mg / wk 9-15
drol 50mg /day 9-12

I'm excited. Way more conservative than a lot in this thread, but I believe it's more than enough to grow given a proper diet.

 

[jay_dub]

200mg Anadrol/day (one month - 6 weeks tops)
800mg Primobolan/ Week
1000mg Sustanon/ week
50-100mg proviron/day

I love the look of that. :headbang:

Once you stop the anadrol you should add in some tren ace/susp the remaining 6 weeks or so.

 

[ADRAKE21]

my next blast for my offseason will be starting out
sustanon 500mg will up later in cycle
eq 900mg a week
tren ace 525 a week will up it
npp 500 mg a week will up it
drol 50 mg for a couple weeks then to 100mg
hgh 10iu ED with 15-20iu siln 3x per day 3-4 days a week
maybe some TNE thrown in there

 

[TNH]

To me it just comes down to personal preference for certain drugs.
We all respond differently, so just choose ones that you know you like and
run them at decent doses.
It also depends on what side effects you are willing to tolerate (when it comes to doses and drug choice).
For all out mass I would think Test/NPP/EQ/D-bol or Adrol would be best for most people if sides were not a concern.
For me personally; I don't run orals anymore, high doses of test make me feel sluggish, and I don't like EQ (anxiety), so my cycle would look something like this:


800mg primo week
700mg NPP week
500mg test week
GH @ 10iu daily