Performance anxiety or sides from cycle??!

Djs1988 · Nov 5, 2015

Alright guy I'm gonna try my best to keep this short as possible but there is some info and background on the situation that are important IMO. Basically I hooked up with "the one that got away" in a sense from high school. Girl I had my first crush on and she moved away broke my heart wahhh que emo music..but seriously I tell you this because I really built this hangout up and was very nervous. Things are going fine she's feeling me..clothes come off and my penis is on full retreat..nothing..managed to get semi but my mind was filling with negativity and the anxiety was fierce..but I know for a fact that if I was running my low test high tren combo nothing will stop me from getting it up lol..so I am just absolutely embarrassed at this point..keep in mind I TOOK CIALIS as I typically do just cause why not...and caber..I need some input on what you think could be up I'm gonna lay out my cycle and dosing protocols I'm also going to show you what I took upon myself to change.

Original cycle

Npp 70 mg Ed
Test prop 70 mg Ed
Liquid dbol 40mg daily taken in 3 split doses
25 mg total aromasin 12.5 am 12.5 pm Ed
Caber .25mg e3d
Cialis eod dose depends .3-.4ml buddy made it and said its dosed at 50mg per ml

New adjustments

100 mg test prop Ed
20-25 mg dbol pre workout or in am on non training day
Not splitting aromasin dose because it's not necessary I'm told. I feel like taking a big dose all at once may be better if its estradiol? Not sure just trying it out.

Everything else will be the same..I feel like it was a combination of everything but can't help but feel like it's the drugs and not my mind..can't say I've had this issue to this severity ever aside from being retarded drunk years ago. Haven't got labs and not exactly and option ATM with insurance situation. Give me your feedback guys I am really distraught Over this!!

raw33man · Nov 5, 2015

bloodwork

Nabz · Nov 5, 2015

What Rawman said.

But I think its the combination of the aromasin - youre taking too much for the amount of test you're currently taking- and performance anxiety.

Same thing happens to me when I use to much AI. Letro and Adex are the worst for that. I would go with 12.5 eod of Asin and go from there.

Djs1988 · Nov 5, 2015

Yeah I know. That's the only sure fire way to know..waiting on my insurance to kick in for new job..but for now all I know is that I have a sweet spot..test prop 350 mg a week and it's just a normal dose I'm not experiencing sides and things are on the up and up..I'm gonna go ahead and blame the dbol because my past experiences with npp are fine however I ran it with mast and it was different labs. But I know without labs it's anyone's guess as to what is really going on..but if you had to guess ?

Djs1988 · Nov 5, 2015

Nabz said:
What Rawman said.

But I think its the combination of the aromasin - youre taking too much for the amount of test you're currently taking- and performance anxiety.

Same thing happens to me when I use to much AI. Letro and Adex are the worst for that. I would go with 12.5 eod of Asin and go from there.

Interesting because it was highly recommended for me to run the ai high to counter the dbol aromatising and avoid excessive bloat..also half life of asin is like 12 hours I thought wouldn't it be better to take that Ed? I know some estrogen is good in wouldn't run 25 mg daily it I wasn't on other compounds

Nabz · Nov 5, 2015

You can run it ED if you want to, but I would lower the dose to 6.25 mgs.

Excess bloat is easily controllable by lowering sodium and doing cardio, also drink LOTS of water and your body will start flushing out some water.

Personally I always have AIs on hand but I wont use them unless a problem starts to arise. Its not like you go to sleep and wake up with gyno and bloated as hell. Your nips will start to itch and get sensitive, then I would add the AI, at a low dose for a week and see how I feel if still the same add a little more etc... Same thing with bloat try lowering your sodium a bit and see how you react and add cardio as well and keep an eye on how you look.

I would rather be a little bloated and be able to bang than dry as hell and cant perform or just stop the dbol and switch to a compound that doesnt aromatize as much and doesnt cause bloat, var or tbol are good alternatives.

Djs1988 · Nov 5, 2015

Nabz said:
What Rawman said.

But I think its the combination of the aromasin - youre taking too much for the amount of test you're currently taking- and performance anxiety.

Same thing happens to me when I use to much AI. Letro and Adex are the worst for that. I would go with 12.5 eod of Asin and go from there.

Interesting because it was highly recommended for me to run the ai high to counter the dbol aromatising and avoid excessive bloat..also half life of asin is like 12 hours I thought wouldn't it be better to take that Ed? I know some estrogen is good in wouldn't run 25 mg daily it I wasn't on other compounds

rmtt · Nov 5, 2015

Possibility it could still be the NPP as you aren't running mast now. I know deca is supposedly known for these types of issues, and I would think npp would do the same.

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sammy555 · Nov 5, 2015

Probably issues in you're head and not gear related at all. So long as there is some test in the system shit should work. When I got with my girl i was on high tren and some test I think. Probably anadrol too. Hadn't had sex for ages and was worried I'd shoot my load in seconds or nor get it up. Had so much gear in my system wernt sure how things world work and been on over 5 years. Time came i got it up in seconds and lasted about an hour before I gave up from exhaustion. Thought the tren must be stopping me f tty I'm finishing off. by next night was fine and shot my load quite quick.So much is just in the mind

NoVaDriver · Nov 8, 2015

Performance issues aside, don't y'all love going back to see high school classmates and their first reaction is HOLY FUCK YOU GOT HUGE. [emoji106]

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grizzly978 · Nov 8, 2015

Low or high estro can cause serious libido and erection issues. Personally low estro destroys my libido and erections, so I never run an AI(not recommended but I don't bloat bad at all) You need to get that fixed brother and right now I'd recommend lowering your AI dosage for starters, and if that doesn't work get blood work.

Ps, tren basically makes people a sex maniac lol, like you can run it woth 50mg test a week and still get it up for your girl

Djs1988 · Nov 11, 2015

Yeah man test at 350 a week of prop asin at 12.5 eod I was fine. My last tren cycle low test high tren I was half mast all day God forbid a strong wind blew I'd be full mast lol...idk I made changes cabered up and that helped. Lowered npp to 50 mg Ed test at 100 Ed dbol is just 25mg pre workout asin at 25 Ed no signs of low estrogen iMO and i know a sports med doctor who also does trt wants me to get blood work so I am. He said more than likely its high e2. I can't help but feel its prolactin.

Btw girl came over I got it up after some head fucked for awhile she came but I just couldn't nut. I'll let you guys know blood results

Ehren · Nov 11, 2015

Interested to see the E2 levels on bloodwork when you get 'em. Sounds like E2 to me too, despite the high consistent dose of Aromasin you're on. Then again, high and low E2 can look the same. Hmm.

I don't get any E2 sides like gyno or acne. Little bloat, but it's hard to tell if it's E2 or carbs unless I'm dieting. So...after doing this a long time, Morning wood is my guide! LOL. If I can cut diamonds with it, all is well. If not, I'll add in a little AI.

Congrats on the second round, by the way!

Jacky McSwole · Nov 11, 2015

NoVaDriver said:
Performance issues aside, don't y'all love going back to see high school classmates and their first reaction is HOLY FUCK YOU GOT HUGE. [emoji106]

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Yep and they all got fat.

Djs1988 · Nov 13, 2015

Well update. Been lethargic as hell lately and stiff and sore hands feel tight when I wake up and a little depressed. I think we may be looking at low estrogen. I stopped ai took a shot of cyp with my prop continuing dbol which is nearly gone. Will re asses in a few days looking for lethargy to go away and joints to get better...shouldn't happen on npp...I think my aromasin was too high...does anyone have input on aromasin dosing with factoring in half life? My buddy doses am and pm at 25 mg a day but he's running much higher doses. I'll have my dr apt next week

Nabz · Nov 13, 2015

Djs1988 said:
Well update. Been lethargic as hell lately and stiff and sore hands feel tight when I wake up and a little depressed. I think we may be looking at low estrogen. I stopped ai took a shot of cyp with my prop continuing dbol which is nearly gone. Will re asses in a few days looking for lethargy to go away and joints to get better...shouldn't happen on npp...I think my aromasin was too high...does anyone have input on aromasin dosing with factoring in half life? My buddy doses am and pm at 25 mg a day but he's running much higher doses. I'll have my dr apt next week

That's what I was suspecting.

12.5 EOD is perfectly acceptable. Or if your dead set on ED take split the pill to give you 6.25/day.

The only time I run it ED is pre contest.

Djs1988 · Nov 17, 2015

Lol should of listened to you in the first place. Yeah dude couple days ago I'm looking at the scale I'm looking in the mirror and I'm dry as hell for being on dbol and what not. So yeah I'll know for sure soon but I'll do 12.5 eod but I'm almost scared to start taking ai again now. Do you think taking it at night vs am has any effect or am I over thinking?

Nabz · Nov 17, 2015

Djs1988 said:
Lol should of listened to you in the first place. Yeah dude couple days ago I'm looking at the scale I'm looking in the mirror and I'm dry as hell for being on dbol and what not. So yeah I'll know for sure soon but I'll do 12.5 eod but I'm almost scared to start taking ai again now. Do you think taking it at night vs am has any effect or am I over thinking?

Glad you got your game back bro

You're overthinking, just take it when convenient, I prefer to take it in the am personally with my other supps/aas.

I understand why you would feel that way, start low and assess, if more is needed add a little more etc... bloodwork would be ideal to know exactly where you stand.