Pharma vs "pharma"

[Real Steele]

Man... ive been taking "pharma" chinese stiff and switches to real pharma and my hands are swollen and tingly on 5iu.... like bad.

SErostim slwas never like this but damn... these are straight from the pharmacy so no doubt real...

Crazy difderence

 

[Real Steele]

Man... ive been taking "pharma" chinese stiff and switches to real pharma and my hands are swollen and tingly on 5iu.... like bad.

SErostim slwas never like this but damn... these are straight from the pharmacy so no doubt real...

Crazy difderence

See how botched my typing is LoL

 

[Flocci]

why do you mean by "pharma"? just high purity genetrics?

 

[traininsane11]

Pretty sure pharma and Chinese have never been in the same sentence unless the word “not” is in there

 

[Real Steele]

Pretty sure pharma and Chinese have never been in the same sentence unless the word “not” is in there

They all claim to be pharma grade. Almost every sponsor on here does.... but there is a huge difference and fast. They can work but not like the real deal.

I have had real seros in the past but these blow sero away.... or its because Im older and more sensitive.

 

[Real Steele]

why do you mean by "pharma"? just high purity genetrics?

Yes... even the high purity generics dont hold a candle to this. Ive used "pharma" as high as 10iu and never had the swollen hand sides.

 

[dpotter01]

Well the Chinese reverse engineer and knock off everything, If I remember right they even bought the stealth Blackhawk that went down and we blew up during the Osama bin laden raid. That's why the majority of peptides came out of China, they can make literally anything even if they have bits and pieces to go off. They are about production and if the end product his a little less pure or has more dimer they push it through. Americans on the other hand will test, test, test and retest until the product is almost flawless.

 

[dpotter01]

That's not to say the Chinese can't put out a quality product but they are less stringent on making sure things are absolutely perfect. That's why American manufacturers usually have a QC person oversee products made there.

 

[RepZZ]

I've used TP black tops for years and anything over 5IU daily made my hands swell and overall edema. Now I'm using GH in thailand and not getting any side effects. If the product is truly GH, you should get the same sides regardless where its from. The Thai product always send me the COA but that can be made up

 

[dpotter01]

As you said any company can make a "good" COA and put out bad product. There's nothing wrong with generics (there are actually some good ones) but nothing beats good legit Serostim. Legit Serostim goes through a lot of testing and QC. If you get a good 3rd party tested generic you should be okay. Unfortunately the market is flooded with poor/low quality HGH. If I could afford Serostim I would run those but there are good price pointed generics out there.

 

[romo]

 

[specter]

Tried plenty of different generic chinese, generic indian and true pharma and between the products of quality and pharma i had 0 difference.

 

[Real Steele]

Tried plenty of different generic chinese, generic indian and true pharma and between the products of quality and pharma i had 0 difference.

Before Raw Deal... chinese products were identical. I remember Jintropins killing my hands.

TP product was always good and will be what I use when I cant get these going forward. there is still a difference from these over anything else Ive taken.

Age may be a factor. Like I said serostim never did this at 6iu. But that was 10 years ago for me.

 

[Victory]

Before Raw Deal.

It does seem that everything changed after ORD?

After came a huge wave of inhouse production with fancy labels vs importing known brands.