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PIP/flu like symptoms post injection

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Recently bought from a sponsor on here a few weeks ago Test E300 and Bold U300. Was using Test E250 and Mast P100 with no problem but whenever I’ve used the Test E300 I’ve been getting a decent amount of PIP and low-grade fever immediately after.

Slightly confused because whenever I use the Bold no problems at all. I’m shooting 1mL of the Test and .5mL of the Bold so going to break my test up into .5mL shots to see if it helps

SubQ 27g 1/2” needle, the only thing I can think of is 1mL is too much injection volume for SubQ. Any suggestions appreciated
 
Recently bought from a sponsor on here a few weeks ago Test E300 and Bold U300. Was using Test E250 and Mast P100 with no problem but whenever I’ve used the Test E300 I’ve been getting a decent amount of PIP and low-grade fever immediately after.

Slightly confused because whenever I use the Bold no problems at all. I’m shooting 1mL of the Test and .5mL of the Bold so going to break my test up into .5mL shots to see if it helps

SubQ 27g 1/2” needle, the only thing I can think of is 1mL is too much injection volume for SubQ. Any suggestions appreciated

Quite a few people have been reporting these exact problems from various different sponsors on the board, including myself..

Did a 0.5ml shot of Test E 5-6 days ago and can still barely sit or lay on that side, had my body fighting a light fever for 3 days and body aches, taking Tylenol and Ibuprofen and HS-CRP came back super elevated 2 days post injection..

I’m honestly starting to believe more and more the “rumors” that there was not only a supply chain issue of raws but also a quality control and possible contamination issue..

Of course the sponsors/sources will most likely deny the shit out of this as it interferes with business, and we all like to think that AAS dealers/manufacturers are all good hearted bros just like us and completely different from your average drug dealer that doesn’t care if his product is pure or laced or whatever..

That’s rarely ever the case.. Their bottom line is profit profit profit.. Its a business with no corporate complaint department or HR etc.. There are no rules and even for smaller things, I’ve never ever in my 13+ years here, have ever seen a source/sponsor ever take responsibility for things they 100% proven did wrong (reference random AAS testing for several examples)….

So imagine something as big as this..

You’re like the 20th person I’ve seen say something like this, whether on public forum or in private, in the last week alone..

You can TRY to heat the gear in a pressure cooker or oven and filter the gear into a sterile vial with .22 micron filters, which would take care of most possible bacteria or particles that may have been left behind due to poor SOPs, but in the slight chance it’s something like endotoxins, which can’t be filtered through standard filtering processes or killed by heat unless it’s extreme heat (above 500-600° for an hour) then you’ll more than likely still get the same reaction after the fact..

Only way to know is to try it out..
 
Recently bought from a sponsor on here a few weeks ago Test E300 and Bold U300. Was using Test E250 and Mast P100 with no problem but whenever I’ve used the Test E300 I’ve been getting a decent amount of PIP and low-grade fever immediately after.

Slightly confused because whenever I use the Bold no problems at all. I’m shooting 1mL of the Test and .5mL of the Bold so going to break my test up into .5mL shots to see if it helps

SubQ 27g 1/2” needle, the only thing I can think of is 1mL is too much injection volume for SubQ. Any suggestions appreciated
You’re pinning 1.5ml oil subq?…
 


Test E, primo, mast E

All raws that are effected since October last year
 


Test E, primo, mast E

All raws that are effected since October last year
yaaa, I saw that… time to switch to Cyp
 
yeah I had the same experience with primo although I didn’t have a fever. Just debillitating pain I’m still dealing with

The fever likely indicates hopefully a low grade infection. Really hoping it doesn’t get worse for you. If it does I’d definitely go get some anti biotics

Also.. ice the fuck out of the area. Don’t apply heat and a massage gun to it like I did. Just made the inflammation and pain exponentially worse

I’m done ordering gear for a while. The raws situation right now just seems so fucked. There’s absolutely some quality issues
 
I also wouldn’t continue pinning anything that causes a fever. Will likely make the issue exponentially worse if there some bacteria causing an infection
 
1ml of oil is definitely to much for sub Q, i believe .5 ml of oils is the max for Sub Q injections,

Depending on the compound itself….

I personally did sub Q injections during my TRT protocol for 2 years and switched back to IM as it was just easier to pin IM….but i never went over .2 ml per sub Q injection so never had issues come up….
 


Test E, primo, mast E

All raws that are effected since October last year
I wouldn’t say this as an absolute. I know many people, myself included, using these compounds with no issues.
 
I wouldn’t say this as an absolute. I know many people, myself included, using these compounds with no issues.

Myself included but fortunately stuff I had from prior to all this happening. Some labs would of had raws from beforehand to that would of carried them over for a period of time so not every one would of been bit and potentially not every batch of raws just enough to close the manufacturers down
 
I have used a 300 Test E concoction over the years from two different manufacturers and never got any pip, it felt the same as 250 Test E.

Toss it. Gear is too cheap these days to put up with PiP or low grade fever. Crack open a wallet and buy from a different manufacturer.

Im currently using a 300E from a very established UGL that has no Pip and tested out legit via janishik, but the oil is really thick and hard to push in unless heated up.

Going forward, I am just going to stick to 250 Test E.
 

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