Planning out first cycle, take a look

[thecrimsonfiend]

Ok, I've decided its time. I'm 27, been traing for 10 years. When I started, I was a fat kid, 217 lbs and no muscle, a real couch potato. I started a clean diet and lots of cardio, within a year I got myself down to 168, keep in mind i'm 5'11". since then. I have trained with a pretty clean diet, and worked my way back up to 205, 14% BF ( had it checked 3 weeks ago). I have used PH's in the last 2 years, Havoc and SUS500 ( best PH ever, thanks Phil!) But, it's time to move on, i figure if I'm gonna sped money, its gonna be real stuff. I've been reading for the past 4+ months or so, and have decided on a cycle. If you guys could check it out, tell me what you think.
Test E 500 mgs/week wks 1-12
Nolva 40/30/20/20 wks 14-18
clomid 100/100/50 wks 14-16

HCG is on hand in case, I know it should be added during cycle, going to go with 250iu's/week, just not sure when to start or when to stop. Is 4 weeks in and 2 weeks before last shot ok? Thanks for the info guys

 

[oliveironni]

I don't know if you need 500mg why don't you just do 250mg to see how your body will react to the test ?

JUST My .02

 

[Quad-smack]

I don't know if you need 500mg why don't you just do 250mg to see how your body will react to the test ?

JUST My .02

X2

 

[thecrimsonfiend]

If I start with 250/week, and I don't notice much by say, week 8 or 9, is it safe to bump it up to 500, if its even for 3-4 weeks?

 

[h8tr3d]

you probably wont see much in the way of gains or sides at 250/wk. my first cycle i started at 500, and boosted it at wk8 to 650, and started gaining more. Remember its not suspension, so when your doing 250, its actually less than 250

 

[tkav1980]

If I start with 250/week, and I don't notice much by say, week 8 or 9, is it safe to bump it up to 500, if its even for 3-4 weeks?

yes thats fine. the lower the dose the lower the chance of sides. ive been cycling for almost 8 years and for me a heavy cycle is 500 a week test and 300 deca. its all in the diet and training, the drugs are just a boost. i get amazing results with a low dose and so can you.

 

[B1gJ1m]

yes thats fine. the lower the dose the lower the chance of sides. ive been cycling for almost 8 years and for me a heavy cycle is 500 a week test and 300 deca. its all in the diet and training, the drugs are just a boost. i get amazing results with a low dose and so can you.

Excellent advice!!! Too many people have the opinion that more is better and the reality is that just isn't true. You can probably get decent gains on a lower dose for your first cycle.

 

[h8tr3d]

try the low dose if you want bro, im just lettin you know about my personal expierience, as well as a few others i know. 500/ wk isnt all that much, but if your body responds off less, than thats good too. If not, add some more

 

[oliveironni]

I see you don't wanna go for 250mg/EW only, I dunno if this right be maybe is better for you to stack the low dose of test with a low dose of an anabolic like EQ or Deca probably.

Just my 0.02 cents again...

 

[thecrimsonfiend]

Hey guys, thanks for the advice. I'm gonna go with 250/week for the duration and see what happens. At least that way I have somehing to base what my body will respond to

 

[oliveironni]

Hey guys, thanks for the advice. I'm gonna go with 250/week for the duration and see what happens. At least that way I have somehing to base what my body will respond to

Exactly, good choice.

 

[doitright]

250 for his first cycle is enough. He needs to see how his body reacts first of all. Secondly to say someone cant gain off of 250mg on their first cycle is absolute bullshit. Do some research.

 

[doitright]

one other thing. If you start high where else is there to go??????

Higher?

sounds smart doesnt it

 

[tenny]

man.......i wish i could do my first one over again

it would be twice as much

 

[gordo14]

Get this.............

try the low dose if you want bro, im just lettin you know about my personal expierience, as well as a few others i know. 500/ wk isnt all that much, but if your body responds off less, than thats good too. If not, add some more

500mg per week of testosterone is like ten times more than what the average male produces in a week? 250 is well above what a healthy male produces in a week. Start off low and increase over the years.......yes i said years if you need to. Slow and steady to make keepable gains.

 

[doitright]

man.......i wish i could do my first one over again

it would be twice as much

we all have choices man. I chose my health and still do.

I just can't see how taking twice as much your first time is smart. Example: if you start out at say 750mg on your first cycle where do you go next. Be honest here do you think next time you would drop down the dosage? Hell no, you are going to increase it. So now on your second time you are now over 1gm of shit. By the time you get to your third cycle you have more AAS in your veins than blood.

 

[doitright]

500mg per week of testosterone is like ten times more than what the average male produces in a week? 250 is well above what a healthy male produces in a week. Start off low and increase over the years.......yes i said years if you need to. Slow and steady to make keepable gains.

I'm glad someone else has some smarts here. Someone really needs to school these folks about AAS. Sad part is most of these people havent hit there mid 20's yet and think all there is to life is getting big and that the only way to get there by yesterday is turning the vial up.

 

[pesty4077]

250 for his first cycle is enough. He needs to see how his body reacts first of all. Secondly to say someone cant gain off of 250mg on their first cycle is absolute bullshit. Do some research.

BUMP^

 

[tenny]

dugley do right..........whats to say, if there is no next time?....whats the odds of someone really doing a second cycle????.....i would say 80% would not

and increasing amounts everytime is bullshit!!!.....you find the amount that works and stick to it....tweeking here and there

if you choose health.....why inject something into your body thats made in someones bathtub???

not starting shit here......just disagreeing and questioning your crediability

 

[gordo14]

dugley do right..........whats to say, if there is no next time?....whats the odds of someone really doing a second cycle????.....i would say 80% would not

and increasing amounts everytime is bullshit!!!.....you find the amount that works and stick to it....tweeking here and there

if you choose health.....why inject something into your body thats made in someones bathtub???

not starting shit here......just disagreeing and questioning your crediability

Some of us use Human grade gear that is made in a lab.