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Ry Roid
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Plasma Expanders!!
Ok guys, this is one thing I want to experiment w/ it's usage and such but, don't know too much about it. Big A if you can let me know bout it's usage, dose etc.
RY
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Paul Bunyan
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Don't you think you've put enough chemicals in your body already? You freak bastard. LOL. PB
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natass
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used it once. I'll find out what he did.
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xcelbeyond
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I'm assuming that since these increase amount of blood in system, they increase vascularity???
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Freakmaster
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Be careful RY
If i remember right that's what contributed to Andreus Munzers death.His blood was just to thick for his heart to pump or something like that.Just be careful my friend and have your doctor buddy lead you through on this one.I've gotten use to you being around.
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Ry Roid
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I wasn't planning on using it anytime soon but, several pro's I know were wondering and I was clueless. I HATE to be clueless.hehehe
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Hvywght
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I hear that stuff works great
I was in the gym the other day and I was talking to chad nichols and he says Ronnie Coleman uses it. He told me that it is very dangerous and could cause alot of blood related problems if it is misused. I would just like to know more about what it does. Chad didn't really talk much about it, so somebody please help Ry out so we can all find out.
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apowers3
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Hey. I am not exactly sure how plasma expanders work but I tell you what I know.
Basically the plasma expander will create a shift of water from subcutaneous compartments in to the blood. This will create the dry effect with out using diuretics and will also increase vascularity. The shot is IV and it will require about 250-500ml usually.You can have some major blood pressure issues with plasma expanders also. There are about 5 different types of plasma expanders and each has their own dosing and half lives so make sure that the person doing the IV knows what they are doing. Thanks
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ironone1
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Is that what some of the athletes used in the Olympics for doping? I know one used that drug for anemia patients to produce more oxygen in the blood. I wonder if plasma exp. are related in some way.
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xcelbeyond
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I work with a guy who's bike-raced internationally. Many bikers are taking this to increase blood's oxygen-carrying capabilities (he won't).
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Big A
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I haven't played with this yet either.
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wyldeone
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RY!
Alright bro here is the deal yes a few elite level pro's are using E.P.O. and plasma expanders esp. chad's boys and they use the stuff I.V. so many iu per pound of bodyweight! what you need to keep in mind is that yes this will volumize as well as increase not only the blood plasma but the red-blood cells as well and if not taken with a blood thinner can be very dangerous. I got your e-mail and i talked with Dave Palumbo regarding this and he advised me to be very careful and also made some reccomendations to me! I will e-mail the info to you when i get a chance brother. This method once again is only used the last few days before a show as it will really increase your blood pressure and therefore you will want to be dried out as well as using diuretics to control the blood pressure issue's. later bro wyldeone.
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Plasma Expanders!!
Ok guys, this is one thing I want to experiment w/ it's usage and such but, don't know too much about it. Big A if you can let me know bout it's usage, dose etc.
RY
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Paul Bunyan
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Don't you think you've put enough chemicals in your body already? You freak bastard. LOL. PB
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03-07-2002 05:16 AM
natass
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used it once. I'll find out what he did.
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xcelbeyond
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I'm assuming that since these increase amount of blood in system, they increase vascularity???
xcelbeyond
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Freakmaster
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Be careful RY
If i remember right that's what contributed to Andreus Munzers death.His blood was just to thick for his heart to pump or something like that.Just be careful my friend and have your doctor buddy lead you through on this one.I've gotten use to you being around.
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Ry Roid
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I wasn't planning on using it anytime soon but, several pro's I know were wondering and I was clueless. I HATE to be clueless.hehehe
RY
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Hvywght
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Springfield , MO
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I hear that stuff works great
I was in the gym the other day and I was talking to chad nichols and he says Ronnie Coleman uses it. He told me that it is very dangerous and could cause alot of blood related problems if it is misused. I would just like to know more about what it does. Chad didn't really talk much about it, so somebody please help Ry out so we can all find out.
Hvywght
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apowers3
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Hey. I am not exactly sure how plasma expanders work but I tell you what I know.
Basically the plasma expander will create a shift of water from subcutaneous compartments in to the blood. This will create the dry effect with out using diuretics and will also increase vascularity. The shot is IV and it will require about 250-500ml usually.You can have some major blood pressure issues with plasma expanders also. There are about 5 different types of plasma expanders and each has their own dosing and half lives so make sure that the person doing the IV knows what they are doing. Thanks
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03-08-2002 12:20 AM
ironone1
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Is that what some of the athletes used in the Olympics for doping? I know one used that drug for anemia patients to produce more oxygen in the blood. I wonder if plasma exp. are related in some way.
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03-08-2002 09:14 AM
xcelbeyond
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Registered: Jan 2002
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Posts: 336
I work with a guy who's bike-raced internationally. Many bikers are taking this to increase blood's oxygen-carrying capabilities (he won't).
xcelbeyond
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Big A
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I haven't played with this yet either.
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wyldeone
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RY!
Alright bro here is the deal yes a few elite level pro's are using E.P.O. and plasma expanders esp. chad's boys and they use the stuff I.V. so many iu per pound of bodyweight! what you need to keep in mind is that yes this will volumize as well as increase not only the blood plasma but the red-blood cells as well and if not taken with a blood thinner can be very dangerous. I got your e-mail and i talked with Dave Palumbo regarding this and he advised me to be very careful and also made some reccomendations to me! I will e-mail the info to you when i get a chance brother. This method once again is only used the last few days before a show as it will really increase your blood pressure and therefore you will want to be dried out as well as using diuretics to control the blood pressure issue's. later bro wyldeone.
