PLEASE HELP LIVER....

[JJDADOG]

Just coming down off a cycle of test and deca and my blood work is fine but my liver is working 3 times what it should be I just started taking Milk Thistle...I have also stop all orals even Mult vitm..if anY one can help me that would be great...

Thank you

 

[Uluwatu]

Maybe try some synthergine from synthetek. They are a board sponser here.

 

[marooned]

Synthergine! Also use the search feature in the forum. There are a lot of threads about this with helpfull info.

 

[blackhole]

absolutely no reason to stop taking multi-vitamins. since you are athletic you need to take more vitamins than a sedentary person, and unless you never ever eat any processed food, odds are your diet doesnt contain enough vitamins.

 

[BigBoyJ]

Just curious, if your blood work is fine, why do you say your liver is working 3 times harder than normal?

 

[JJDADOG]

Just curious, if your blood work is fine, why do you say your liver is working 3 times harder than normal?

In the past year i have done to heavy cycles of dbol 60 mgs a day and 2 cycles of clen 160mgs a day 4 weeks on 4 weeks off

 

[bigraf]

That is why it's better to stay clear of orals unless necessary, although with proper protocol liver enzymes will go back down to normal it's just to much stress for the liver.

 

[Ashop]

Just coming down off a cycle of test and deca and my blood work is fine but my liver is working 3 times what it should be I just started taking Milk Thistle...I have also stop all orals even Mult vitm..if anY one can help me that would be great...

Thank you

Get yourself some Synthergine,,,this will help you greatly.

 

[bearsfan]

in my experience, once i stopped taking orals my liver enzymes returned to normal pretty quickly. synthergine def helped

 

[clarkf]

Please help

I have a question I hope sum1 can answer. I recently had blood work done. Everything was fine except I had extremely high liver enzymes. AST 508 ALT 1005. All other liver function was normal {amonia and bilubrin}. They ran a hepatitis screen which was negative and did ultrasound of liver and gallbladder. My liver was normal size, was not fatty, etc. Ultrasound DID NOT show any abnormalities. I was on Anadrol50 for about 5 weeks at 2 tabs 100mg a day. I stopped Anadrol about 6 days before bloodwork. I was also using xanax and norvasc nightly, along with INJ Test E. I have since stopped all compounds. I also trained legs VERY hard about 5 days before which left me with alot of muscle pain and breakdown which may have also contributed to higher levels. I am very worried but feel that it is simply due to the chemicals. I stopped all chemicals and am starting LIV 52. My Dr wants blood work done again in 2 weeks and then again in a month. Will I suffer permanent liver damage or will the enzymes go back to normal??

 

[PHIL HERNON]

SERIOUSLY

I have a question I hope sum1 can answer. I recently had blood work done. Everything was fine except I had extremely high liver enzymes. AST 508 ALT 1005. All other liver function was normal {amonia and bilubrin}. They ran a hepatitis screen which was negative and did ultrasound of liver and gallbladder. My liver was normal size, was not fatty, etc. Ultrasound DID NOT show any abnormalities. I was on Anadrol50 for about 5 weeks at 2 tabs 100mg a day. I stopped Anadrol about 6 days before bloodwork. I was also using xanax and norvasc nightly, along with INJ Test E. I have since stopped all compounds. I also trained legs VERY hard about 5 days before which left me with alot of muscle pain and breakdown which may have also contributed to higher levels. I am very worried but feel that it is simply due to the chemicals. I stopped all chemicals and am starting LIV 52. My Dr wants blood work done again in 2 weeks and then again in a month. Will I suffer permanent liver damage or will the enzymes go back to normal??

IF THOSE NUMBERS ARE REAL.......HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY ASK US WHAT IS GOING ON WITH YOU?? GO TO AN INTERNIST ASAP! GET MORE TESTS.....THERE ARE BETTER TESTS FOR LIVER FUNCTION THAN AST AND ALT.

 

[Hossienda77]

LIV-52 by Himalaya. It's also called LiverCare in the states, but it's the same exact product. Shit works great and it's backed by a lot of peer reviewed medical studies.

 

[bhumik]

LIV-52 by Himalaya. It's also called LiverCare in the states, but it's the same exact product. Shit works great and it's backed by a lot of peer reviewed medical studies.

also that product N that someone posted about.. I think TKAV posted a study a while ago.

 

[mr. boom]

Liv-52 is prob one of the best to take for the liver. Also I have been researching liver longer and sounds promising as well.

Acetaminophen (tylenol) is verry liver toxic also. NAC is the best thing to take for this type of liver damage.

 

[Hossienda77]

Liv-52 is prob one of the best to take for the liver. Also I have been researching liver longer and sounds promising as well.

Acetaminophen (tylenol) is verry liver toxic also. NAC is the best thing to take for this type of liver damage.

Good point regarding the Acetaminophen. Never, ever take tylenol/acetaminophen for a hangover or anything. It has a horrible synergistic effect on the liver when combined with alcohol.

http://arthritis.emedtv.com/tylenol/tylenol-and-alcohol.html

 

[clarkf]

IF THOSE NUMBERS ARE REAL.......HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY ASK US WHAT IS GOING ON WITH YOU?? GO TO AN INTERNIST ASAP! GET MORE TESTS.....THERE ARE BETTER TESTS FOR LIVER FUNCTION THAN AST AND ALT.
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Yes those numbers are real Phil. What tests are better for liver function that AST and ALT?? I had an ultrasound done which ruled out Chirosis, fatty liver, and tumors. I am asking for help not to be scolded. LOL.
I am seeing my pcp and have had blood work done. I return in about a wk for more blood work and againg in 2 more weeks.I have no symptoms. Basically what Im asking is assuming I stop all chemicals{which I did} theoretically should enzymes return to normal??

 

[clarkf]

Phil doesnt muscle trauma causes a rise in AST and ALT. I did train legs very hard about 5 days b4 blood work to the point where I could barely walk. Legs were sore and tight for over a wk. Im thinking that the chemicals along with xtreme muscle trauma may have caused this extrem rise in enzymes. Im not saying that to have AST and ALT #s that hi are normal.

 

[Quad-smack]

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[b-boy]

Phil doesnt muscle trauma causes a rise in AST and ALT. I did train legs very hard about 5 days b4 blood work to the point where I could barely walk. Legs were sore and tight for over a wk. Im thinking that the chemicals along with xtreme muscle trauma may have caused this extrem rise in enzymes. Im not saying that to have AST and ALT #s that hi are normal.

getting blood work not too long after taking oral steriods wasn't the best if you wanting low liver enzymes. first off take at least 7 days off from training as new research show liver enzymes to be elevated for at least 7 days after resistance training, then go get blood work done again.

what was your GGT values? a high number here usually is an indication of chemical abuse to the liver, like meds, alcohol, and oral steriods. I have had plenty of elevated AST/ALT values but never high GGT values.

 

[bhumik]

getting blood work not too long after taking oral steriods wasn't the best if you wanting low liver enzymes. first off take at least 7 days off from training as new research show liver enzymes to be elevated for at least 7 days after resistance training, then go get blood work done again.

what was your CPK values? a high number here usually is an indication of chemical abuse to the liver, like meds, alcohol, and oral steriods. I have had plenty of elevated AST/ALT values but never high CPK values.

i dont think thats true. infact cpk values are high ,, reall high sometimes 10 times or more than normal after training even if yourr liver is fine. since Ck is one of the main enzyme marker for muscle damage.

Also i doubt ALT and AST can raise this high from training. But that i m not sure about..