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Been off cycle for about 4.5 weeks. Was on test e @500mg 1-10w tren e @400mg 1-10w and test e at 750mg 11-16w, started pct 21 days after last pin. Started having dick problems. Went to my doc, he wanted to run bloods and my test came back at 288. My dick still works but not like it used to of course. I'm only on week 2 of pct. Using clomid 200 day 150 days 3-4 and 100 days 5-7 now on 50 for the rest of it.

Question is, shouldn't my test be higher than 288 4 weeks since last pin? Especially with a longer ester? I'm confused
 

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No your test will be low bc the long ester test ( cyp enth) clear your system in a couple weeks. Also get your estrogen checked bc high estrogen and low t will mess with your libido.
 

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Estro and prolactin were all in normal ranges
 

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Why didn't u use HCG? And why did u wait so long to jump on clomid. U crashed man, hopefully u didn't fuck anything up.
 

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Why didn't u use HCG? And why did u wait so long to jump on clomid. U crashed man, hopefully u didn't fuck anything up.

He actually ran his PCT at the proper time according to many posts here on the subject. It is no use to start your PCT with a long ester Test still in your system, so if you use the roid calculator he was probably pretty close.

I am not saying this is correct or what is causing his issue, just that there are many theories on here on how you should run a pct.
 

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I didn't think 3 weeks was long. What I've done previous cycle with no issue. I used adex during and HCG for 2 weeks after last shot. Sorry I didn't mention that. I don't think my HCG was legit. Got it off a friend. Adex seem to be ok tho. I know I fucked up and shoulda ran HCG throughout the cycle also. I guess that's a reason why I'm so low. I know it'd be suppressed but not this low. Hopefully it comes back post pct
 

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tren e @400mg 1-10w

At leat consider yourself lucky you didn't have any libido/ED problem while ON... some people crash badly on 200mg tren/w only. Or even just on test after quite some time, for that matter.

As for PCT, well, no one should ever expect any miracle from it... I mean, sexual disorders is a possibility/risk EVERYONE should be fully aware of before they start taking AAS... as with everything, it's a chance you take... better be prepared to it beforehand. :cool:

Small doses (25O-500 IU twice to three times a week) HCG with a bit of Tamoxifen while on is truly the only really effective thing you can do in order to prevent potential troubles ON & OFF.
 

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Your going to need more time to recover. Give it a few more months.
 

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At leat consider yourself lucky you didn't have any libido/ED problem while ON... some people crash badly on 200mg tren/w only. Or even just on test after quite some time, for that matter.

As for PCT, well, no one should ever expect any miracle from it... I mean, sexual disorders is a possibility/risk EVERYONE should be fully aware of before they start taking AAS... as with everything, it's a chance you take... better be prepared to it beforehand. :cool:

Small doses (25O-500 IU twice to three times a week) HCG with a bit of Tamoxifen while on is truly the only really effective thing you can do in order to prevent potential troubles ON & OFF.

Tren puts my libido in overdrive, and from what I have read here on PM, that is what it does for most of the users.
 

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Tren puts my libido in overdrive, and from what I have read here on PM, that is what it does for most of the users.

"Most" I don't think so, but you're absolutely correct on that point... everyone reacts differently. And that's PRECISELY why you should always be prepared to the worst beforehand! :)

If things go well, then good! ;)
 

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I would have to agree about tren putting the libido into high gear, at least for me personally. Made me horny as hell all the time and my wood hard as oak. I've been on sust and a small amount of deca now for about 8 weeks and have started noticing a big difference compared to when I was on test e and tren. I suspect my estrogen levels are high right now, but I have some nolvadex on-hand, so I'm going to start taking that to see if it helps? May need to order some caber if the nolvadex does't help the situation.
 

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"Most" I don't think so, but you're absolutely correct on that point... everyone reacts differently. And that's PRECISELY why you should always be prepared to the worst beforehand! :)

If things go well, then good! ;)

I agree

I was fine throughout. This is my first time running tren. I know a lot of ppl say to wait to get bloods done longer than I did but my doc suggested it so I did it. I've never had my libido shut down so I guess I'm just over reacting and need to let the pct do it's thing and give it more time. I just honestly didn't expect my test to be that damn low.

Does anything think it could be gear? Say under dosed or let's say if it was actually prop rather than enth and it caused me to get this low since I didn't start pct for 3 weeks and prop calls to start pct a few days after last pin.
 

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He actually ran his PCT at the proper time according to many posts here on the subject. It is no use to start your PCT with a long ester Test still in your system, so if you use the roid calculator he was probably pretty close.

I am not saying this is correct or what is causing his issue, just that there are many theories on here on how you should run a pct.

We always ran it no more than 2 weeks after last injection. Don't know if I'm right or wrong it just seemed a little long to me. This is just my opinion and what we always did way back when.
 

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I didn't think 3 weeks was long. What I've done previous cycle with no issue. I used adex during and HCG for 2 weeks after last shot. Sorry I didn't mention that. I don't think my HCG was legit. Got it off a friend. Adex seem to be ok tho. I know I fucked up and shoulda ran HCG throughout the cycle also. I guess that's a reason why I'm so low. I know it'd be suppressed but not this low. Hopefully it comes back post pct

That makes more sense now. Ya gotta throw in the hcg part lol! U should be ok.
 

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I agree

I was fine throughout. This is my first time running tren. I know a lot of ppl say to wait to get bloods done longer than I did but my doc suggested it so I did it. I've never had my libido shut down so I guess I'm just over reacting and need to let the pct do it's thing and give it more time. I just honestly didn't expect my test to be that damn low.

Does anything think it could be gear? Say under dosed or let's say if it was actually prop rather than enth and it caused me to get this low since I didn't start pct for 3 weeks and prop calls to start pct a few days after last pin.

Just give it more time, u will be fine. If not well welcome to the HRT club!
 

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"Most" I don't think so, but you're absolutely correct on that point... everyone reacts differently. And that's PRECISELY why you should always be prepared to the worst beforehand! :)

If things go well, then good! ;)

I think this would make a good poll question "Does Tren make your libido go up or down?" Only if I know how to make a poll question :)

I just ten to see so many posts saying how Tren has skyrocketed there libido. Myself and my buddy ran it together for the first time, he said his libido went through the roof also. I think some people just might be more or less prone to prolactin issues?
 

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Just give it more time, u will be fine. If not well welcome to the HRT club!

Yes, exactly one of the reasons I went on TRT. At my age, I figured if I was going to cycle, why even bother with PCT.
 

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I think this would make a good poll question "Does Tren make your libido go up or down?" Only if I know how to make a poll question :)

I just ten to see so many posts saying how Tren has skyrocketed there libido. Myself and my buddy ran it together for the first time, he said his libido went through the roof also. I think some people just might be more or less prone to prolactin issues?

My libido goes crazy, that would be a great poll.
 

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I agree with those saying to give it some time. you'll be alright. I and many others have had similar problems!
 

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man you be strait in no time,,,in meantime if you get lot of pussy like myself,,,course im married and that increases success ratio,,,cialis and phentermine man im telling you that is the most potent combo you will ever
take i did it by accident but i pay you for it if you try it and your not like wtf,,,its almost additive
 

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