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Pre-Workout Really Worth It On Cycle?

Not for everyday use but Mike Arnold's Miratropa works great for me as a pre.
 
androgens are stimulatory to the brain and they are better than pre workout stims because androgens also upregulate mtor
 
androgens are stimulatory to the brain and they are better than pre workout stims because androgens also upregulate mtor
Caffeine has a direct effect on CNS / PNS stimulation... Not all androgens up-regulate the nervous system nor its various components, and not equally either.


 
Yeah, I still take a pre-workout while on cycle. Here's my current rotation. tempImageCQEHOK.jpg
 
i have noticed, at 48, that a good preworkout is a major help on heavy back day and always on leg days.
Also works wonders on functional training days where volume and pace are way up.
I still do the overwhelming majority of workouts without it but it helps on the lazy days.

I miss the old Dymetedrine 25. I used to pop one of those 45 minutes before a workout along with the old CarboForce grape drink and hit the gym hard. Those were the days!
Those along with a TurboTea for during the workout and I was blasting
 

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