Elvia1023
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On cycle or off cycle?
I think the right question should be if you are on a cutting diet or not, if you are getting enough calories and good rest, or not, etc.
But I never understood the pre-workout shit. Drink coffee, caffeine, or EC. Much cheaper and you know what you are taking, and also more effective.
They are more effective? How many preworkouts have you tried? What if a person wants to get an insane pump on a certain training day? Would coffee be better than citrulline? What if ECA suppresses his appetite too much? What if he doesn't like coffee? There are thousands of preworkout products are they all shit?
I do agree with some of your post though so don't take my post the wrong way. I love coffee and caffeine only but I have also experimented a lot with preworkouts and personally can get much more from certain ones than I do from the 3 things you listed. I never understand when guys totally dismiss something (that could be 1000 different ingredients/things) because they never use it themselves. Everyone is different though.
Regardless carrying on from TOO55 this thread is ridiculous in many ways. It's just a preworkout. If you like them take one and if you don't just have nothing... or a coffee etc. To think if you should have one on cycle or not is logic I totally don't understand. As Dugbet posted if anything it would be more about your diet and current goals/condition. Meaning I understand when guys want to avoid stimulants most of the year but when dieting hard with low calories they choose to add a preworkout to help them train hard and keep them going because energy is low. If your budget is that low that you are worried about paying $30 for a preworkout powder just don't buy one and have coffee (obviously homemade) or some caffeine tabs. Although you can get some decent preworkouts for approx $1 per serving so I don't think that is too bad. Even Excelsior (bought in the US) at 1/2 scoop per session is great value for money and that is one of the most expensive ones.