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Pre Workout

I thought phenibut was more along the lines of a depressant. Is 150mg enough to just increase focus?

And how often to do use kratom and phenibut? I know they're said to be habit forming but I've been slightly skeptical of that. Personally, I've used 1-2gm of kratom periodically (once or twice every other week) for several years and never feel an urge to use it. I mainly use it when I'm burning the candle at both ends because of my job.
This is F-Phenibut which is the fast acting version, so 150mg is a moderate dose. I haven’t used regular Phenibut in a long time as I like this version better. Massively increases focus and also helps making pain/strain pleasurable if that makes sense

I use both F-phen and Kratom daily. There’s horror stories online about both with withdrawals, but I’ve never experienced them even after stopping cold turkey for months at a time. I never increase the doses either, and don’t try to chase a high off them. You see guys on 15grams of Phenibut and 40grams of Kratom a day disparage the drugs because they get withdrawals.. I wonder why 😅

I also have a lot of mental stuff.. TBIs etc from my chosen career paths, and these keep me 100% level and operating as the best version of myself. Much better than anything the VA put me on. I went from a mental wreck my last few years in the Army to now having ZERO anxiety or depression. It’s like staying on Test for me. Actually helped make me a better person than I was. Worth it for me, but I also handle substances very well so still take heed of all the warnings you see online
 
I've been interested in phenibut for awhile now. Is it like bromantane?
Honestly bro, I have no idea. I’ve only heard of bromantane but never looked into what it does, let alone tried it.
Sorry I can’t be more help
 
Honestly bro, I have no idea. I’ve only heard of bromantane but never looked into what it does, let alone tried it.
Sorry I can’t be more help
Now your missing out 😅
 
Honestly bro, I have no idea. I’ve only heard of bromantane but never looked into what it does, let alone tried it.
Sorry I can’t be more help
I loved it when I first tried it, it's the only nootropic that ever did anything for me. After awhile it stopped working though, I think maybe because I took deca. Either that or I just developed a tolerance or something. I plan on taking it again some time in the future. They used to give it to the Russian military I think
 
It depends. Do I want it to give me energy? Do I want to feel like I’m on meth? Or do I just want to take some safe supplements that compliment my workout performance and my pump that I can go home and sleep on after training?
 
If you can get yourself some ephedrine Hcl. Ya the real shit we can’t get in the states any more. Great way to wake yourself up if you’re having a struggle day. 75-100 mg your good to go. If you want a great stimulant free pump that lasts take 10-20 mg cialis pre workout, a few spoonfuls of iodized salt. A few grams of arginine,1000-1500 mg vit c.
 
If you can get yourself some ephedrine Hcl. Ya the real shit we can’t get in the states any more. Great way to wake yourself up if you’re having a struggle day. 75-100 mg your good to go. If you want a great stimulant free pump that lasts take 10-20 mg cialis pre workout, a few spoonfuls of iodized salt. A few grams of arginine,1000-1500 mg vit c.
Do they still put in in bronkaid? I remember years ago you could just go to the store and get bronkaid, and that shit would wake you the hell up.

Kind of a makeshift ECA stack — bronkaid, caffeine, and aspirin
 
ive never really been one to use pre-workout when on cycle, seemed to not really provide a whole lot of added benefit at that point lol. When off cycle I often would use Jacked 3D or something like that, even NOxplode if it was on sale. I know Im dating myself here, not even sure what is good anymore but the only issues I ever had were heart palpitations lol
Almost 20 years on the market and people still don't know what it's called.
 
Do they still put in in bronkaid? I remember years ago you could just go to the store and get bronkaid, and that shit would wake you the hell up.

Kind of a makeshift ECA stack — bronkaid, caffeine, and aspirin
Ya you can get bronchi’s but it’s not ephedrine hcl it’s sulphate. It’s like the difference between Budweiser and everclear. I think iv read Hcl is 90% stronger then sulphate.
 
I like Dark Labs Flame Version 3 right now.
Another that I like really well is Smash AMF
It's funny that you mentioned these two because I'm really digging them right now. Flame V3 just started using a couple weeks ago for the first time and just got another container of Smash last week after not using it for several months, forgot how good it was.
 
Ya you can get bronchi’s but it’s not ephedrine hcl it’s sulphate. It’s like the difference between Budweiser and everclear. I think iv read Hcl is 90% stronger then sulphate.
If you need HCL get the brand Primatene. Honestly both work exactly the same

The whole “OTC ephedrine doesn’t compare to the old stuff” is the same as how people claim shit like Pharm grade deca is way stronger than UGL (I remember people were saying 200mg pharma deca is like 1g UGL). But in this case it’s the opposite where nobody trusts the pharmacy 😂
 
I loved it when I first tried it, it's the only nootropic that ever did anything for me. After awhile it stopped working though, I think maybe because I took deca. Either that or I just developed a tolerance or something. I plan on taking it again some time in the future. They used to give it to the Russian military I think
Are you talking about bromatane or Phenibut here?
@3BILLS I may have to look into it
 
Are you talking about bromatane or Phenibut here?
@3BILLS I may have to look into it

Ok im a jackass so disregard what i was talking about with bromatane.

I got it mixed up with the us version bronkaid and thought we were talking about ephedrine

Carry on 😅

Bromatane does sound interesting
 
If you can get yourself some ephedrine Hcl. Ya the real shit we can’t get in the states any more. Great way to wake yourself up if you’re having a struggle day. 75-100 mg your good to go. If you want a great stimulant free pump that lasts take 10-20 mg cialis pre workout, a few spoonfuls of iodized salt. A few grams of arginine,1000-1500 mg vit c.
75-100mg?!
holy hell.
i am currently using the sopharma injectable ephedrine from time to time because tabs are impossible to get and 10-15mg is enough to get me super hyped up and get plenty of energy
 
Ok im a jackass so disregard what i was talking about with bromatane.

I got it mixed up with the us version bronkaid and thought we were talking about ephedrine

Carry on 😅

Bromatane does sound interesting

Bromantane didn't help me study. It's more for physical stuff, which is great for pre-workout. Great sense of confidence/well-being. I felt like I could lift all day, didn't want to leave the gym. Took it one time before I helped my ex move and I was like a machine, lol. In Russia they prescribe it as Ladasten for neurasthenia.
 

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