Preworkout help

[warlock]

that’s why I prefer less caffeine with a moderate dose of dmha. Dmha gives me all day steady energy and no crash . I can lower my overall caffeine intake and be fine. However, id like to take your recommendation on nootropics and pure dmha powder. One cup of coffee with these added in for pre workout would be ideal

How much DMHA do you like to use?

 

[warlock]

I have been meaning to update that thread for awhile. I have forgotten some products but I will post in it very soon as I have tried quite a few new ones.

The guys who overdo stimulants should look into more nootropics with a decent dose of standard stims as opposed to just using as many strong stimulants as possible all through the year. Over time it just digs a bigger hole that is hard to get out of and will negatively effect overall energy levels. At the very least do this in cycles to help with sensitivity in the long term. Even simple ingredients such as high dosed l-tyrosine and kanna can be used with great effect for these purposes. This is why a product such as Gorilla Mode Energy could be very effective for some. Now for the guys who want to be loaded up they could add in 1 hydrazine caps to any preworkout to give a great boost. Injectable/Powdered DMAA is another option but there are many and again that could also be added to a preworkout for guys who want to be wired to the max.

I am currently rotating between 1 scoop of 5% Nutrition's 5150 and 2 caps (300mg) zynamite OR 2 scoops of Gorilla Mode and 2 caps (300mg) zynamite.

Do you feel zynamite makes a big difference? What brand do you use?

Is it ok to mix zynamite with caffeine? After a quick google search, it seems that zynamite is normally used in place of caffeine??

 

[pimpman]

I hate pre-workouts they all give me the jitters and I suffer from anxiety. And honestly I think that will do damage of some kind in the future.if I don't have enough energy to work out without taking a pre-workout I'm in the wrong sport.judt my thoughts. Not judging anyone that takes them

 

[b_cornelius]

Yah, stims people use to stim their nervous system and mind, some just to keep them awake.

But this whole Preworkout notion should probably be something specific towards the mind-muscle connection. Nootropics are all over the place in activity, but only a few might be truly Preworkout.

Phenylpiracetam really sits on the axis of dopaminergic pleasure, glutamate stimulation, and acetylcholine intentionality. It really gets into movement. Studies show that it really does promote motivation and activity. The acetylcholine really gets into intentional motor activity while coordinating with the dopaminergic reward circuit.

You can take whatever stims any time for whatever they are good for, mentally, but Preworkout should specialize in motor activity and such related motivation.

 

[Kaladryn]

I do a shot of espresso and 4-5g of citrulline these days, I've tried a lot of stuff in the past, even made my own preworkout from 10+ different ingredients for a while.

 

[johnjuanb1]

Dbol and Cialis preworkout today for me. Great pump going on now too.

 

[jstrong20]

I've tried that, with DMAA from there, and it just didn't hit the same for me. It made the non-dmaa pre-s a little better, but not like what I was used to. For me, anything by Dark Labs is always pretty solid. They have Crack showing up periodically still and I'll stock up on a couple tubs when I find it. Use it only only on my 2 leg days.

Yeah using crack now. 120mgs of dmaa a serving. Also gives great pumps. Assassin v7 works well also 300mgs dmha, 650mgs caffeine, 30mgs noopept. May try defiant unleashed next. Suppose to be awesome focus and clean energy.

 

[Kaladryn]

Dbol and Cialis preworkout today for me. Great pump going on now too.

I've done this many times, love that combo. I still throw in just a tiny bit of cialis now and then, just 2-3mg seems to do the trick.

 

[MasteroniPepperoni]

How much DMHA do you like to use?

Currently 225 mg

 

[warlock]

I have been meaning to update that thread for awhile. I have forgotten some products but I will post in it very soon as I have tried quite a few new ones.

The guys who overdo stimulants should look into more nootropics with a decent dose of standard stims as opposed to just using as many strong stimulants as possible all through the year. Over time it just digs a bigger hole that is hard to get out of and will negatively effect overall energy levels. At the very least do this in cycles to help with sensitivity in the long term. Even simple ingredients such as high dosed l-tyrosine and kanna can be used with great effect for these purposes. This is why a product such as Gorilla Mode Energy could be very effective for some. Now for the guys who want to be loaded up they could add in 1 hydrazine caps to any preworkout to give a great boost. Injectable/Powdered DMAA is another option but there are many and again that could also be added to a preworkout for guys who want to be wired to the max.

I am currently rotating between 1 scoop of 5% Nutrition's 5150 and 2 caps (300mg) zynamite OR 2 scoops of Gorilla Mode and 2 caps (300mg) zynamite.

I found zynamite on amazon, but only 1 brand. Is it more popular in the UK? I'm looking for something that could give me a nice boost pre-workout without feeling too stimmed up. Do you think zynamite could work well for this? Zynamite + a cup of coffee?

 

[Elvia1023]

Do you feel zynamite makes a big difference? What brand do you use?

Is it ok to mix zynamite with caffeine? After a quick google search, it seems that zynamite is normally used in place of caffeine??

It doesn't make that much of a difference. I wouldn't rush out to buy it. I was disappointed with it as a standalone. When added to a preworkout it gives a nice little boost but nothing spectacular. I am using up the caps and I won't be buying it again. If you want to add something to caffeine/coffee that's gives a nice boost (focus) but isn't too crazy go with something like citicoline (cognizin) and/or l-tyrosine. Doses for each for good effect should be around 800mg and 3000mg.

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[Elvia1023]

I found zynamite on amazon, but only 1 brand. Is it more popular in the UK? I'm looking for something that could give me a nice boost pre-workout without feeling too stimmed up. Do you think zynamite could work well for this? Zynamite + a cup of coffee?

For preworkouts that should give a great effect without feeling too stimmed I would try something like Supplement Need's Pre Focus +, Dragon Pharma's Neuromorph, Core Nutritionals Zone or Hosstile's Hosstility.

 

[Nyoco]

It doesn't make that much of a difference. I wouldn't rush out to buy it. I was disappointed with it as a standalone. When added to a preworkout it gives a nice little boost but nothing spectacular. I am using up the caps and I won't be buying it again. If you want to add something to caffeine/coffee that's gives a nice boost (focus) but isn't too crazy go with something like citicoline (cognizin) and/or l-tyrosine. Doses for each for good effect should be around 800mg and 3000mg.

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Had the same experience with Zynamite, not worth it solo. What I´ve found gives me a slight boost (nothing major, enough to make me go from sleepy/tired to awake) without any jitters or stimmed out feeling is Rauwolscine or Alpha Yohimbine, which is curious since I don´t react well to Yohimbine at all. The product I was taking had 3mg per capsule, the first dose made me feel slightly wired but then I adapted and I really like it. A dose of 2-3 grams of ALCAR also gives me a slight boost, I´m more mentally alert without being stimmed.

 

[warlock]

It doesn't make that much of a difference. I wouldn't rush out to buy it. I was disappointed with it as a standalone. When added to a preworkout it gives a nice little boost but nothing spectacular. I am using up the caps and I won't be buying it again. If you want to add something to caffeine/coffee that's gives a nice boost (focus) but isn't too crazy go with something like citicoline (cognizin) and/or l-tyrosine. Doses for each for good effect should be around 800mg and 3000mg.

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Thanks Elvia. I'm going to look into all those recommendations. I will scratch the zynamite.

 

[warlock]

It doesn't make that much of a difference. I wouldn't rush out to buy it. I was disappointed with it as a standalone. When added to a preworkout it gives a nice little boost but nothing spectacular. I am using up the caps and I won't be buying it again. If you want to add something to caffeine/coffee that's gives a nice boost (focus) but isn't too crazy go with something like citicoline (cognizin) and/or l-tyrosine. Doses for each for good effect should be around 800mg and 3000mg.

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I use L-Tyrosine every once in a while, but tend to keep it to 1000mg. I will try 3000mg next time

Never used citicoline, but I'm going to read up on it now.