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Preworkout tadalafil reduces cortisol response to training

yes...have always liked tadafil pre workout... just a lil bit, like like 5-10mg..any more and major head rush during heavy sets in my experience...

it prolly dropped your blood pressure to low. unfortunately thats what happened to me too
 
it prolly dropped your blood pressure to low. unfortunately thats what happened to me too

I think that's why it works so perfectly for me because high blood pressure runs in my family. Everyone in my family is on medication for it except for my uncle. I have had high bp for 17 years and stopped my meds so tadalafil is my saving grace.
 
I think that's why it works so perfectly for me because high blood pressure runs in my family. Everyone in my family is on medication for it except for my uncle. I have had high bp for 17 years and stopped my meds so tadalafil is my saving grace.

im on propranolol for anxiety and bloodpressure. i tried tadalfil which lowered my bloodpressure but i still had the anxiety. when i get on cycle some day ill prolly need something extra and ill try it again. i coulda really used something for a pump too.
 
The Cipla tablets I have are 20mg which is the standard dosing for ED. I'm considering taking 3 a week, roughly EOD. Next stop Bonerville. Will report back on boners.

All jokes aside, I tend to agree though that chronic use will build a tolerance and over time the drug will possibly be less effective. Maybe it's best saved for the weekends?

I have some samples of Lilly Cialis in my hand from a pharma rep. The sample card has 15 5mg tabs and says "Cialis for once daily use". Pretty sure the tv ads say 5-10mg for everyday use. Maybe at that low dose one doesn't get desensitized as much to it.
 
The Cipla tablets I have are 20mg which is the standard dosing for ED. I'm considering taking 3 a week, roughly EOD. Next stop Bonerville. Will report back on boners.

All jokes aside, I tend to agree though that chronic use will build a tolerance and over time the drug will possibly be less effective. Maybe it's best saved for the weekends?

I didnt know it was off patent in the US or are you not in the US?
 
I didnt know it was off patent in the US or are you not in the US?

Ya Cipla makes it, TONS of Indian pharmas making it. I'm not talking about a legal US script haha. But I am US.
 
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Its been established that tachyphylaxis from PDE5 inhibitors, is very possible. And possible ocular complications.


The Cipla tablets I have are 20mg which is the standard dosing for ED. I'm considering taking 3 a week, roughly EOD. Next stop Bonerville. Will report back on boners.

All jokes aside, I tend to agree though that chronic use will build a tolerance and over time the drug will possibly be less effective. Maybe it's best saved for the weekends?
 
Why? It has a 36 hour half life so you can still be a porn star in bed after the workout. :D
My thoughts as well but little or none of the research stuff I've tried has ever ever EVER lasted as long as pharma cialis.
 
In the past I have used tadalafil eod for a few months with great results (pump, erections, vascularity, bp control etc). Now I use it maybe twice per week at about 25mg and I am gtg. It's effects last about 2 days for me. I get no side effects from our tadalafil. Some in the past have given me a stuffy nose. Balkan Cialis are top grade too and another fav of mine.
 
It's neat and novel that PDE5 inhibitors act on several different physiological reactions, unintended from its labeled use(s). Some are not fully understood, such as this article states.

Personally I'd be cautious using ED. EOD would probably be ok with lower doses. Low dose cialis, obviously is prescribed for ED usage. That still doesn't take away the potential ocular damage the can occur or tachyphylaxis.

Sildenafil (Viagra) has been observed to increase testicular testosterone levels. That doesn't mean I'm going to take Viagra to boost my testosterone levels. There's better cheaper methods.






Would you suggest against EOD use? But dem boners!?
 
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Lots of things can lower cortisol but I found this study using L-arginine and L-lysine very interesting. I know many suffer from anxiety so it could be a good read.

Oral treatment with L-lysine and L-arginine reduc... [Biomed Res. 2007] - PubMed - NCBI

Oral treatment with L-lysine and L-arginine reduces anxiety and basal cortisol levels in healthy humans.

Smriga M1, Ando T, Akutsu M, Furukawa Y, Miwa K, Morinaga Y.

Abstract

Dietary supplementation with an essential amino acid L-lysine has been shown to reduce chronic anxiety in humans with low dietary intake of L-lysine. A combination of L-lysine and L-arginine has been documented to normalize hormonal stress responses in humans with high trait anxiety. The present study was carried out in one hundred eight healthy Japanese adults. The aim of study was to find out whether a week-long oral treatment with L-lysine (2.64 g per day) and L-arginine (2.64 g per day) reduces trait and stress-induced state anxiety and basal levels of stress hormones. We confirmed that, without regard to gender, the amino acid treatment significantly reduced both trait anxiety and state anxiety induced by cognitive stress battery. In addition, we found that the treatment with L-lysine and L-arginine decreased the basal levels of salivary cortisol and chromogranin-A (a salivary marker of the sympatho-adrenal system) in male subjects. These results of this double-blind, placebo controlled and randomized study confirm the previous findings in humans and animals and point to a combination of L-lysine and L-arginine as a potentially useful dietary intervention in otherwise healthy humans with high subjective levels of mental stress and anxiety.
 
definitely going to try this protocol out and see how it works for me!! Very interesting!!


DD

Thanks

JJ
 
What are we considering low dose? 20mg is standard ED dose but I know there are companies making 5 and 10mg tabs.
 
What are we considering low dose? 20mg is standard ED dose but I know there are companies making 5 and 10mg tabs.

anytime ive seen or heard of Cialis for ED daily use, like on the TV commercials, it has always been 5-10...
 
I've used cialis pre workout for the last seven years. If used everyday 5mg-10mg is all that is needed for the benefits. Most will be gtg on 5mg ed.
 

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