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Primo Only Causing Gyno?

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Let's say it is really primo and you’re running it with no test. Then the primo is going to suppress your natural testosterone and that will raise estrogen. This situation will activate you gyno gland because you have an imbalance of test to estrogen ratio with estrogen being in a surplus.

this is 100% true

that said just running 200mg of what ever if one thing you should be able to tell what it is outside of the above fact.
 

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primo is dht and dht can make
I agree but do not think that happened here because based on the results I got, I never seemed to have low test effects. For instance, I expected my drive to go down, erection quality etc because that's what should happen if I was just taking primo. But instead, drive and such only went up. No indication of test crash, seems to be the opposite. Very bizarre
primo is dht and dht makes some ppl horny
the world outside of pm is very different. i know ppl in real life who have never heard of a bb forum and run deca only and have no issues of any sort. deca bought in a pharmacy. plenty of things with no test. it leaves me scratching my head but, ive seen it a lot.
 

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Running high primo with low test can crash estrogen, I’m betting it’s not real primo.
 

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You can go to a lab and get a urine test done for AAS. It’ll let you kno what you have in your system. If you confirm you got duped then I’d post up the sponser as well.

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I've reached out to the OP to find out the specifics. This helps us know who to test over at AnaSci.org.

SWOL I would be interested to know what you're blood work looks like. Come off for a month, run bloods, start some test and retest 2 weeks and 4 weeks in. My curiosity stems from your sensitivity to low test. Do you have naturally higher test/e2? Have you done blood work in the past?
 

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Some of you guys are way off. You start guessing using uneducated assumptions. It can't be primo because his sex drive increased? It can't be primo because it caused pip? Guys also need to stop guessing their estrogen levels and taking that guess as the complete truth and should just get a blood test to see what exactly it going on. Get the vial tested and you will know. Hopefully the testing is set up again on Anasci and they can test one of your vials in the 1st batch of testing. If you don't want to wait you could send it off yourself to someone as it won't cost much if just 1 vial.
 

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Test prop IMHO.
Some of you guys are way off. You start guessing using uneducated assumptions. It can't be primo because his sex drive increased? It can't be primo because it caused pip? Guys also need to stop guessing their estrogen levels and taking that guess as the complete truth and should just get a blood test to see what exactly it going on. Get the vial tested and you will know. Hopefully the testing is set up again on Anasci and they can test one of your vials in the 1st batch of testing. If you don't want to wait you could send it off yourself to someone as it won't cost much if just 1 vial.
my guess is based off of the fact he is experiencing puffiness and/or itchy Nipples. Primo alone doesn’t aromatize. Test p @ 2ml per week is pretty much the only drug that I could see doing this. Could also be that the nipped situation is totally unrelated to what he’s injecting 🤷🏻
 

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I have not cycled anything in over 2 yrs b/c I have been extremely busy with other things in life. Also, b/c I am pretty sensitive to any gear and sides, I usually do what would be considered low doses b/c I get minimal sides and get the physique I want and feel the best this way. I have no desire to be huge, I just want to remain athletic and proportioned.

I know the reasons why people say you always have to use test, but me and test don't like each other for some reason. That's not to say I don't/won't use it, but when I do, it is extremely small doses if at all. For instance, I never go over 50 mg/week.

I wanted to do an experiment to just cycle primo at low doses and initially at least, just 200 mg/week. Within the first week of taking it, I felt the symptoms of gyno in one nipple initially and now both. I am confused how this could happen tbh. The vendor is extremely trusted so I assume it can't be some different gear. I have arimidex but why would that be needed at such low doses of a non aromatizing compound? Also, I don't think I'm even close to being shut down wrt test levels. Sex drive is actually better since being on the Primo, no doubt about it. Even still here at 2 weeks in.

I do have test prop on hand, also winstrol. My idea was initially to start on the Primo so I could assess ONLY Primo. When it began to shut me down, as anything does, I would then start going with a low dose of test prop weekly or simply some HCG. Again, I don't particularly enjoy taking test and blow up like a motherfucker on doses above 50 mg a week.

Other than the nips thing, I feel really great on Primo. I did not expect how much better I would feel. I would like to stay on it, but I want to know how to get this train back on the tracks. Any help would be appreciated.
That 50mg Test is some very flawed logic. By introducing any exogenous Test you are shutting down your natural production, even 1mg per week. And 50mg is prob going to give you like a 250 total which is very low. So this is a pointless exercise. I understand not wanting to aromatize, I have had gyno and get some nasty sides myself. But at the very least I would run a TRT dose especially if you are going to run other hormone as well.
 

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^^^you guys already know that REAL PRIMO does not cause estrogen-sides

guys go to AnaSci.com ..get involved in their testing project over there

..those test samples come from YOUR RANDOM PURCHASES
(..NO, the sponsor can not send in his own samples, for obvious reasons; anyone can send in a "loaded" sample for testing)

..these tests are 100% BLIND to the sponsor
(..sponsors do not know who, or what, or when a sample may be sent in for testing; so only a sponsor who is honest 100% of the time will never fail)

..samples are then HPLC analyzed by NEUTRAL 3rd PARTY (Janoshik)
(..even "Janoshik" does not know who or what he is testing, he just receives a numbered sample)

^^^no other testing like it & that's why many have been caught failing ..even "golden" sponsors ..some over & over

MY SUGGESTION; JUST MY OPINION:
-buy from the sponsors that never fail
-buy from LAB-Made if possible
(True Lab-Made=True Clean Room & made on professional equipment by professionals)

^^^and if they also happen to have the BEST prices on legitimate gear
..then sh*t, buy from them!!

^^^and if they also happen to have GREAT results on their PRIMO tests (..& other expensive items like MAST-E200)
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..then ..well ..you know what to do


***BEST advice ..use the incredible "equalizing" resource that you have @Anasci !!!!!

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AMEN
 

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The reason I used Primo alone (initially) was to make an assessment on what just Primo feels like and what gains it would give me (I did not expect much). I had planned on brining in Test Prop at TRT doses once I detected I was being shut down as I knew I could get my levels back up quickly. The odd thing is I noticed within about a day my drive/erection quality increased. At first I thought, "Ok it's just binding to SHBG and this is a temporary increase in free test" and I didn't expect it to last. Read: I expected it would drop off as endogenous shut down. But 2 weeks later and I still had the same thing. Also, you know how when you haven't been on gear in a while, you don't have to shave your face as often. Within a few days of taking it, I could feel a drastic increase in growth of the facial hair which this surprised me b/c if women can use it too, this is not something you'd expect they'd enjoy lol

I really don't want to throw the source under the bus though until I'm sure. This source has been in the game a long time. I've never had a problem with them. I am going to halt taking this Primo and then get it tested and go from there.
The night I answered you I was drinking so wasn't thinking about all the possibiites. Your planning would of worked if you planned a blood test after 2 weeks or 3 weeks but not before 2 weeks. After two weeks of primo blood test will show how much it is supressing your testosterone, where your estrogen is at. This blood test would of told you if it was test or primo. Espically if you did the blood test a day or two after the primo shot.
 

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