If I remember correctly. Its been a long time. I got the original stuff from Underground Labs I believe it was, and it way underdosed. Like 1mg per tab. I got nothing from it. Nothing that I noticed that is. Or was that Methyl Dien Im thinking about ? HMMMM........... I may be thinking about MDien. M1t.. M1T.. Who makes it? Is it still legal ? I was quick to try PH's back in the day when they first came out. All my buds were reluctant to try em calling em a waste of money, snake oil, etc. I did a bottle of Ergopharm 1AD and suddenly evryone was asking what was I on and where could they get theirs. LOL. I loved 1AD. That stuff got me wicked pumps and serious growth. Too bad the original Methyl test PH's were so liver toxic. I got some bangin headaches too as I recall.