In my quest to overcome Cipro induced muscle damage I have been searching about Myostatin.
Some of the Bro Science claims I have heard are:
"no over the counter Myo inhibitor works"
"Every Myostatin product is a scam"
"IF it worked EVERYONE would be using it."
I don't know about the "egg products" but I have come across a lot of info that suggests we can lower Myostatin with many of the common bodybuilding products. Here is what I've found, and some questions of my own.
Myostatin inhibitors:
1. Green tea extract (Epicatechin)
2. Cocoa products (Epicatechin)
3. Creatine
4. Essential Amino Acids
5. Vitamin D (conflicting studies)
Green tea and Cocao.
The main ingredient I have looked at is Epicatechin. The "meaty" info is about mice, and they used 1mg per kg 2 times a day.
At this dose in mice there was a huge drop in myostatin and a good rise in folli.
A Cacoawell product I have found has a "60mg" dose of Epi in it.
Info on the amount of Epi in Cocoa and Green tea is either tio scarce or to "smart" for me to understand.
I found one chart that led me to believe there is just 1mg or Epi per 4 grams of pure Cocoa powder. If any cool person knows the true "Average" amount PLEASE let us know!
50% drop in mice, (49.2%) Increase in the ratio of plasma follistatin/myostatin levels", the researchers write.
3. Creatine
The small study that was done shows that both Creatine and training lower Myo. What I couldn't figure out from reading is if the greater drop in the Creatine/Training group was from the Creatine itself or from higher intensity achieved by the Creatine.
It would have been nice to compare non-training Myo levels in placebo versus Creatine to see if the Creatine itself was the cause for the Myo drop.
17% drop in Myo after 8 weeks
4. Essential Amino Acids-Talk about a drop
This one has GREAT science, IMHO
The study used a 10 G serving of EAAs and measure a HUGE drop in Myo and a good raise in folli after 3 hours.
50-75% decrease in Myostatin!
Vitamin D- not too sure about this one yet.
So with all these confirmed and possible inhibitors of Myostatin I wonder
how much good adding another Myo inhibitor can do.
Questions I have.
1. Can a lower dose of EAAs still lower myo as much.
2. Where can a person get a large enough amount of Epi to lower myo
3. How much Epi by volume is in green tea/Cocoa powder.
4. Should Myo inhibitors be cycled to allow for the tendons to strengthen/stay flexible. (I have read conflicting info that claims Myo blocking can disrupt the tendons).
*studies have shown that EAA/15 G protein before training and some protein after had the best protein synthesis.
Thanks for any input
Some of the Bro Science claims I have heard are:
"no over the counter Myo inhibitor works"
"Every Myostatin product is a scam"
"IF it worked EVERYONE would be using it."
I don't know about the "egg products" but I have come across a lot of info that suggests we can lower Myostatin with many of the common bodybuilding products. Here is what I've found, and some questions of my own.
Myostatin inhibitors:
1. Green tea extract (Epicatechin)
2. Cocoa products (Epicatechin)
3. Creatine
4. Essential Amino Acids
5. Vitamin D (conflicting studies)
Green tea and Cocao.
The main ingredient I have looked at is Epicatechin. The "meaty" info is about mice, and they used 1mg per kg 2 times a day.
At this dose in mice there was a huge drop in myostatin and a good rise in folli.
A Cacoawell product I have found has a "60mg" dose of Epi in it.
Info on the amount of Epi in Cocoa and Green tea is either tio scarce or to "smart" for me to understand.
I found one chart that led me to believe there is just 1mg or Epi per 4 grams of pure Cocoa powder. If any cool person knows the true "Average" amount PLEASE let us know!
50% drop in mice, (49.2%) Increase in the ratio of plasma follistatin/myostatin levels", the researchers write.
3. Creatine
The small study that was done shows that both Creatine and training lower Myo. What I couldn't figure out from reading is if the greater drop in the Creatine/Training group was from the Creatine itself or from higher intensity achieved by the Creatine.
It would have been nice to compare non-training Myo levels in placebo versus Creatine to see if the Creatine itself was the cause for the Myo drop.
17% drop in Myo after 8 weeks
4. Essential Amino Acids-Talk about a drop
This one has GREAT science, IMHO
The study used a 10 G serving of EAAs and measure a HUGE drop in Myo and a good raise in folli after 3 hours.
50-75% decrease in Myostatin!
Vitamin D- not too sure about this one yet.
So with all these confirmed and possible inhibitors of Myostatin I wonder
how much good adding another Myo inhibitor can do.
Questions I have.
1. Can a lower dose of EAAs still lower myo as much.
2. Where can a person get a large enough amount of Epi to lower myo
3. How much Epi by volume is in green tea/Cocoa powder.
4. Should Myo inhibitors be cycled to allow for the tendons to strengthen/stay flexible. (I have read conflicting info that claims Myo blocking can disrupt the tendons).
*studies have shown that EAA/15 G protein before training and some protein after had the best protein synthesis.
Thanks for any input
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