Proviron doesn't do shit

[lifter]

Does fuck all for me.

Yet there’s a thread on Reddit with people saying 25mg caused them to have capped delts.

Bullllshiiiittt

 

[buck]

Do you have real Proviron?

Speaking for myself i am guessing it was/is real as i got it different times from different reputable sponsors on this forum. But no i never had it tested. But i am not the most sensitive guy either. EQ never made me hungry or gave me anxiety. Same with a lot of other sides people talk about. Although tren did make me sweat a lot when i took it. And my libido is higher on lower doses of T then higher doses.

 

[showstopper83]

Do you have real Proviron?

Im not the OP, but i have used legit Bayer proviron before and it did very little for me.

I have used Masteron even when bf was relatively high, and it still gave me a much better cosmetic effect, helped burn fat and sent sex drive through the roof.

I have never used real proviron at 100-150mg ed, but masteron for me works worlds better, does more and is much more cost effective.

 

[showstopper83]

Speaking for myself i am guessing it was/is real as i got it different times from different reputable sponsors on this forum. But no i never had it tested. But i am not the most sensitive guy either. EQ never made me hungry or gave me anxiety. Same with a lot of other sides people talk about. Although tren did make me sweat a lot when i took it. And my libido is higher on lower doses of T then higher doses.

EQ gives anxiety when it drops e2 too low- if you are running enough test, you won't get it.

I have had EQ anxiety and it is unbearable, i was getting paranoid intensely for things that weren't even a problem. Upped my dose or ran Nandrolone alongside it and it went away.

 

[goback2013]

Same here. Nada.
Now 30mg injectable DHT... love it !!

Mind 30mg/ml requires heating each time prior to pinning.

But it's everything proviron claims to be.

I find any more in a dose and I become noticeably more irritable.

 

[Polska 2]

Love it. Great for libido

 

[pistonpump]

I also think masteron is a better replacement

 

[slayer37]

Real Bayer proviron seems to works really well for me in the final 5 weeks of a prep. Noticeable increase in libido and gives a grainy look/feel. John Meadows was a huge proponent of proviron late in prep as well. I've heard he would go as high as 100mg/day.

 

[pickapeck]

Maybe it's expectations. it is a mild steroid. i used it not long ago and at low dose it let my LH and FSH come back to normal range in the presence of a small amount of Clomid. So it's barely, if at all suppressive. In that context, if you are completely off and hypogonadal from decades of use or whatever, Proviron will free up a little bit more of your testosterone from SHBG and albumin and also act a little bit like DHT. So in the contest of an "off period" or in a hypogonadal state it can help a bit. Most people these days don't really do this off cycle bit much. It can also help in a similar way during a TRT segment for a little boost probably most noticable when keeping Test levels in the normal range.

If you are using it when dieted down and looking for something to harden your look for a short period it is useful there and probably at a higher dose. It is not very toxic compared to most orals so it fits there. Like stated by others in the thread it can cause hair loss so if prone that can be a problem.

Personally I've used it in these contexts and it was a useful compound. If your looking for some other effect like putting on mass or gaining strength it's really not the answer. It's a mild hardener and mood enhancer that will free up a little more of the hormone bound by your SHBG and albumin. It is not that disruptive to the HPTA and is not very toxic at all. You can use a lot of it for short periods to get a more dramatic hardening effect.

 

[TheRoid]

Maybe it's expectations. it is a mild steroid. i used it not long ago and at low dose it let my LH and FSH come back to normal range in the presence of a small amount of Clomid. So it's barely, if at all suppressive. In that context, if you are completely off and hypogonadal from decades of use or whatever, Proviron will free up a little bit more of your testosterone from SHBG and albumin and also act a little bit like DHT. So in the contest of an "off period" or in a hypogonadal state it can help a bit. Most people these days don't really do this off cycle bit much. It can also help in a similar way during a TRT segment for a little boost probably most noticable when keeping Test levels in the normal range.

If you are using it when dieted down and looking for something to harden your look for a short period it is useful there and probably at a higher dose. It is not very toxic compared to most orals so it fits there. Like stated by others in the thread it can cause hair loss so if prone that can be a problem.

Personally I've used it in these contexts and it was a useful compound. If your looking for some other effect like putting on mass or gaining strength it's really not the answer. It's a mild hardener and mood enhancer that will free up a little more of the hormone bound by your SHBG and albumin. It is not that disruptive to the HPTA and is not very toxic at all. You can use a lot of it for short periods to get a more dramatic hardening effect.

What were your doses of Proviron and Clomid?
How long have you been without taking a break from AAS before this interval?

 

[marssel]

I've used Proviron on and off for years with some notice of a difference but not too crazy. About 3 years ago switched over to Masteron to cover the basis of why I was using Provi and haven't looked back. I much prefer Mast over Provi for the equivalent attributes that they both provide.

I prefer to run both especially in prep very similar but not identical

 

[Thor65]

Do you have real Proviron?

Same question I was thinking as well!!!

 

[pickapeck]

What were your doses of Proviron and Clomid?
How long have you been without taking a break from AAS before this interval?

i've done it a number of ways. I went off and just did hCG and Clomid. i tested bloods every 3 weeks and watched my T crash and then come back up to about 300 ng/dL with 500 iu hCG MWF and 50 mg/d Clomid. then I dropped the hCG and dropped Clomid to 25 mg/d and added Proviron 25-50 mg/d. I tested 3 weeks later and my test dropped slightly but my LH and FSH were mid range normal. i was off for about 10 weeks. How did I look? Pretty much looked natty. Lost the steroid pump and a few lbs of muscle and gained a little fat. I dropped about 5-6 lbs body weight. How was my sex drive? average to middlin. My blood work was very good.

I have done it different in the past where I upped the Clomid more and the Proviron more and I was a little harder and felt better as far as mood and my look. I didn't do bloods so I can't say were things were but it definitely felt better. I would speculate if I was a natty and did that and added hCG at 500-750 iu MWF it would feel like a little cycle. Since I am pretty old and worn out things work a little differently for me. On the up side I have some eviedence that I can go off cycle and do a stint with hCG, Clomid and Proviron and if the dose is right I can feel decent and still watch my blood work come back pretty much pristine. I was a little surprised that my LH and FSH bounced back in the presence of Proviron but there you have it for what it's work.

Your mileage may vary

 

[headtrainer]

Im not the OP, but i have used legit Bayer proviron before and it did very little for me.

I have used Masteron even when bf was relatively high, and it still gave me a much better cosmetic effect, helped burn fat and sent sex drive through the roof.

I have never used real proviron at 100-150mg ed, but masteron for me works worlds better, does more and is much more cost effective.

I experienced the same thing with masteron. But there’s one thing I don’t experience using Proviron at 25 mgs per day that I experienced with masteron—and that is an enlarged prostate. Masteron is the first hormone I’ve e tried that made it difficult for me to urinate. So I have no choice but to use Proviron.

 

[Zamun]

I experienced the same thing with masteron. But there’s one thing I don’t experience using Proviron at 25 mgs per day that I experienced with masteron—and that is an enlarged prostate. Masteron is the first hormone I’ve e tried that made it difficult for me to urinate. So I have no choice but to use Proviron.

Use cialis. 10mg daily I have zero issue with even. 600 mast

 

[lestatgear]

It definitely boosts my libido, I notice increased muscle hardness and I've always felt it made my cycle just work better. I even use it during TRT periods and like u say, it makes that TRT dosage feel like it's much more.

Same here. I take 50mg a day year round for the reasons listed.

 

[Cerberus777]

I like it, but the libido kick dies about 4 weeks in. Than I'll take a week off and it's good again. I don't even count it in my total MGs of gear I do with Mast.

 

[goback2013]

Use cialis. 10mg daily I have zero issue with even. 600 mast

Ashwaghanda helps too with the urination frequency/difficulty.
Completely eliminates it actually.

 

[mike036]

Ashwaghanda helps too with the urination frequency/difficulty.
Completely eliminates it actually.

Which ashwaghanda do you recommend ?

 

[goback2013]

Which ashwaghanda do you recommend ?

I just use bulk powder off Amazon. Something like

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N3U3WO4/ref=sspa_mw_detail_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2CXYOV1GSSB5W&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9kZXRhaWwp13NParams