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Proviron non stop?

hompie

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Hey,

I'm on HRT on Doc prescription for 5 years now. 250 mg every 10 days.
During my last cycle even though I did 1250 mg of test , free lvls dropped (sbhg bla bla) To counteract this I started proviron and it worked nicely. Now I wanna do this also during HRT. Can I take this non-stop without worries?
Thanks......
 
doing proviron will increase the effectiveness of your test but is a very strong androgen itself and therefore can cause those kinda sides...if ur not sensitive to those kinda side effects i dont see why not as proviron is well tolerated by the liver i believe although it is methylated..look up a profile on proviron.
 
uwanafight2 said:
doing proviron will increase the effectiveness of your test but is a very strong androgen itself and therefore can cause those kinda sides...if ur not sensitive to those kinda side effects i dont see why not as proviron is well tolerated by the liver i believe although it is methylated..look up a profile on proviron.

I just had a checkup and liver values were fine after 8 weeks of Proviron.
Outstanding I might add ;)
Thanks for your reply.
Anybody else got some feedback?
 
I'm interested also :cool:
 
For HRT, I wouldnt mess with the Anabolic/androgenic balance (Theraputic Index). You want 100-100 that you receive from straignt testosterone. The proviron will throw that balance off, being as it is a straight androgen with no anabolic properties. I dont know if thats a very bad thing, I just see (test only) HRT as being a 'healthy' natural sort of way (low dose, 200mg or so) to replace your bodys own hormone as closely as possible. If you throw your bodys natural balance off, there is a rebound effect waiting somewhere down the line.
This is just my opinion.
I also believe that proviron is not very liver toxic.
 
PROVIRON ABSTRACTS NO SUPRESSION

Int J Gynaecol Obstet. 1988 Feb;26(1):121-8.

The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.

Varma TR, Patel RH.

Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, St. George's Hospital Medical School London, U.K.

Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy.

PMID: 2892728 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



Horm Metab Res. 1984 Sep;16(9):492-7.

Effect of non aromatizable androgens on LHRH and TRH responses in primary testicular failure.

Spitz IM, Margalioth EJ, Yeger Y, Livshin Y, Zylber-Haran E, Shilo S.

We have assessed the gonadotropin, TSH and PRL responses to the non aromatizable androgens, mesterolone and fluoxymestrone, in 27 patients with primary testicular failure. All patients were given a bolus of LHRH (100 micrograms) and TRH (200 micrograms) at zero time. Nine subjects received a further bolus of TRH at 30 mins. The latter were then given mesterolone 150 mg daily for 6 weeks. The remaining subjects received fluoxymesterone 5 mg daily for 4 weeks and 10 mg daily for 2 weeks. On the last day of the androgen administration, the subjects were re-challenged with LHRH and TRH according to the identical protocol. When compared to controls, the patients had normal circulating levels of testosterone, estradiol, PRL and thyroid hormones. However, basal LH, FSH and TSH levels, as well as gonadotropin responses to LHRH and TSH and PRL responses to TRH, were increased. Mesterolone administration produced no changes in steroids, thyroid hormones, gonadotropins nor PRL. There was, however, a reduction in the integrated and incremental TSH secretion after TRH. Fluoxymesterone administration was accompanied by a reduction in thyroid binding globulin (with associated decreases in T3 and increases in T3 resin uptake). The free T4 index was unaltered, which implies that thyroid function was unchanged. In addition, during fluoxymesterone administration, there was a reduction in testosterone, gonadotropins and LH response to LHRH. Basal TSH did not vary, but there was a reduction in the peak and integrated TSH response to TRH. PRL levels were unaltered during fluoxymesterone treatment.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS)

PMID: 6437958 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
 
Thanks dragonfire101 and mike s.
Im dutch and the PubMed story is a little complicated but I guess its not so bad to take Proviron. Btw I'm only taking 50mg a day. These guys got 150mg a day.
I think I'll continue till next checkup and see what impact it had.
 

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