Question about tren only cylcle

[andrealazio]

Hi guys. I want to run a tren only cycle of 50 mg EOD. I'm running it alone because tren without estrogen shut down de novo lipogenesis, so i can eat tons of carb, gain muscle, and lose fat because the body will burn fat for fuel (Of course i will eat low fat).

I know i will get tren dick and i will have low libido, but my question is: Will i be able to return normal after a proper PCT or will i have erectyle disfunction for the rest of my life? Thank you.

 

[andrealazio]

No one?

 

[Fitilla]

also curious what would be the resposne to that one

 

[destin]

i know some people have run it without test and be ok.

I suggest have some test prop on hand if u plan on making sweet sweet loving id have some viagra, cialis or something to help. U know just in case!

scenario:
cant get it up
tren rage kicks in
ya freak out
end of relationship!

 

[superset]

never ran tren alone and don't really know how it may work. A lot of guys around here lately have been lowering test with tren so it may work well. maybe add a little bit of masteron? like 50mg EOD also.

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[andrealazio]

i know some people have run it without test and be ok.

I suggest have some test prop on hand if u plan on making sweet sweet loving id have some viagra, cialis or something to help. U know just in case!

scenario:
cant get it up
tren rage kicks in
ya freak out
end of relationship!

Thanks. But let's say i get shut down and i don't use test prop. After PCT i will recover, right?

 

[andrealazio]

never ran tren alone and don't really know how it may work. A lot of guys around here lately have been lowering test with tren so it may work well. maybe add a little bit of masteron? like 50mg EOD also.

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Yeah, but even with a low dose of test, there will be estrogen, and it won't be able to shut down DNL.

 

[andrealazio]

No one else guys?

 

[Sieve]

You will be okey after.

 

[andrealazio]

Thanks mate.

 

[sazo75]

You will be okay , but just because your eating low fat running tren only , and eating tons of carbs and protein doesn't mean you wont gain fat, if your eating enough you will gain fat no matter what.

 

[andrealazio]

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Actually, tren without estrogen shut down De novo lipogenesis. So the only way to gain fat or maintain is to eat a lot of fat. If you eat low fat and a lot of carbs your body won't be able to use carbs for energy because the tren will burn it off (Hence the crazy sweats) and your only source for energy will be fat.

Now, there are people that gain fat on tren, but that's for two main reasons:

1) They aren't eating low fat, but they are just pigging out on everything, eating 5-7 k kcal a day and most of the calories are from fats.

2) They are eating low fat, but using a lot of test, so they have a lot of estrogen floating around their body; in this case the DNL is not shut down so they are gaining weight from carbs.

 

[Liebow]

Im a big believer and fan of Test-Free cycles.
I recently ran Tren E @ 750mg. You'll be surprised how minimal the sides are.... it was a nightmare running Test E 250mg and Tren E 400mg. Night sweats, insomnia, outrageous temper, acne, oily skin, lethargy, shin splints... now imagine Ive done almost double the Tren dose and dropped the Test... the most sides I got were a little sweatiness, and a more productive controlled aggression. And the first 2 weeks were a strain on any weight lifting, but after that period the nausea and tiredness went away. That was it in regards to sides. And the gains... strength was through the roof, and I gained 5 lbs of new tissue in 8 weeks. No water or bloat. However I did get some pea-sized lumps behind my nipples - but nothing 2 weeks of Letro didn't cure when Id finished the Tren.

If you want to do Tren only, go for 4-500mg for 8 weeks.
If your worried about libido (as many seem to be), run Proviron alongside it, say 25-50mg per day. And use HCG 500iu x2 per week - or as required for sexy time!

 

[andrealazio]

Take a look at this video for more info:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS5tmscUmkM"]Gear Talk With Jason Trenbolone Fat Burning Fact Or Fiction - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Liebow]

Maybe if you ran a little T3 with the Tren... would help with nutritional uptake better and make it harder to get fat? Although, eat enough, and fat will still find a way through.

 

[andrealazio]

Im a big believer and fan of Test-Free cycles.
I recently ran Tren E @ 750mg. You'll be surprised how minimal the sides are.... it was a nightmare running Test E 250mg and Tren E 400mg. Night sweats, insomnia, outrageous temper, acne, oily skin, lethargy, shin splints... now imagine Ive done almost double the Tren dose and dropped the Test... the most sides I got were a little sweatiness, and a more productive controlled aggression. And the first 2 weeks were a strain on any weight lifting, but after that period the nausea and tiredness went away. That was it in regards to sides. And the gains... strength was through the roof, and I gained 5 lbs of new tissue in 8 weeks. No water or bloat. However I did get some pea-sized lumps behind my nipples - but nothing 2 weeks of Letro didn't cure when Id finished the Tren.

If you want to do Tren only, go for 4-500mg for 8 weeks.
If your worried about libido (as many seem to be), run Proviron alongside it, say 25-50mg per day. And use HCG 500iu x2 per week - or as required for sexy time!

Thank you!

I actually don't care about my libido while i'm on cycle, i'm just scared that once i jump off my i won't be able to have a normal sexual life again, but it seems that as long i do a proper PCT everything will be fine.

 

[andrealazio]

Maybe if you ran a little T3 with the Tren... would help with nutritional uptake better and make it harder to get fat? Although, eat enough, and fat will still find a way through.

That's the awesomeness of tren. You wont. There are studies done on cattles that by using 150 mg of tren a week they lost fat and gained muscle when they were low in estrogen. Once they raised their estrogen too, they gained both fat and muscle.

By carb i don't mean fructose tough, even with a shut down DNL, your liver is still able to store excess of fructose as fat.

 

[kinglewy]

Interesting video, he says that when they give cattle trenbolone they lose too much fat yet gain 100 pounds It makes you wonder how many milligrams or most likely grams of tren are they giving these cattle?

 

[Liebow]

I do know several people who went overboard on there diet while on Tren, and they did gain a little fat... you cant say its impossible mate, although Ill agree its VERY difficult to gain fat overall while on it.

To answer your original question, NO you wont mash up your libido for life. Aslong as you run an aggressive and hardcore PCT, you'll be fine. And in the waiting period after PCT, run some Proviron or some Caber to keep your libido and mood up. Want my PCT protocol?

 

[andrealazio]

I do know several people who went overboard on there diet while on Tren, and they did gain a little fat... you cant say its impossible mate, although Ill agree its VERY difficult to gain fat overall while on it.

To answer your original question, NO you wont mash up your libido for life. Aslong as you run an aggressive and hardcore PCT, you'll be fine. And in the waiting period after PCT, run some Proviron or some Caber to keep your libido and mood up. Want my PCT protocol?

Maybe they ate too much fat's or used the test with the tren?

I mean if you pig out on cookies, mcdonald's all day you will gain fat, because you will consume a lot of fat.

Yeah, write me your PCT here, would be great. Thank you!