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Devil's Advocate for Fullybuilt here,
Ok, you all seem to be the main 3, or at least the main 3 that I recall who stand by the fact that most (or alot of) top competitors are genetically gifted and use very small amounts to succeed in this sport.
I believe Doggrapp said alot of people would even quit if people knew the amounts, because these people are so genetically superior.
Phil has referred to bodybuilders of the 70's and 80's as underdeveloped. So how is it that todays bodybuilders are so much more massive than the champions of the past.
I know they don't train harder and aren't stronger, even Ray Mentzer squatted over 9. I'm not buying nutrition as a difference, food hasn't changed or become more superior, if anything more inferior quality wise.
So it basically boils down to "supplementation" being the X factor.
If the top guys from 1975-1985 used baby amounts and the top guys of today reportedly use baby amounts, what's the difference? explain the x factor to me. How are these guys 30 pounds heavier on stage?
COLEMAN
PARIS
Ok, you all seem to be the main 3, or at least the main 3 that I recall who stand by the fact that most (or alot of) top competitors are genetically gifted and use very small amounts to succeed in this sport.
I believe Doggrapp said alot of people would even quit if people knew the amounts, because these people are so genetically superior.
Phil has referred to bodybuilders of the 70's and 80's as underdeveloped. So how is it that todays bodybuilders are so much more massive than the champions of the past.
I know they don't train harder and aren't stronger, even Ray Mentzer squatted over 9. I'm not buying nutrition as a difference, food hasn't changed or become more superior, if anything more inferior quality wise.
So it basically boils down to "supplementation" being the X factor.
If the top guys from 1975-1985 used baby amounts and the top guys of today reportedly use baby amounts, what's the difference? explain the x factor to me. How are these guys 30 pounds heavier on stage?
COLEMAN
PARIS