i have noticed on other borards latley,a certain one in particular,a subject comes up that i feel you are the best person to ask.
Protein powders.ive used them alot over the years.some people say there useful and others pros and serious people never use them.
really my main point is that its been suggested that nearly all are filled with estrogenic items and undesirable chemicals in general.
some say food only no shakes.maybe this a beat to death subject but i think it may be good to discuss from time to time.
thanks.
Ive typed and deleted and typed and deleted and typed and deleted....
i typed up a long post about shysters in the industry and my anger got to me and i got a little too detailed. IM going to state a couple quick vague statements before i get myself into lawsuits.
1) I have had to bite my tongue on this board alot in the last 2 years especially some long threads about certain supplements that certain people are stating their opinions as facts about the overthetop made up science of it. If i said what i could say.....those posters would be embarrased into oblivion......and the CROOKED backstory to said supplements....and how would I know? Who do you think made it for them and fought with them, balked at what they wanted done and got so utterly disgusted with certain companies that I am now owed large sums of money but our business together is now defunct? ME
2) a cheapo guy who buys a 1985 YUGO should not be able to tell all car owners "ALL CARS SUCK AND WILL BREAK DOWN, AND YOU WILL BREAK YOUR LEG WHEN YOU LOSE CONTROL ON A TURN, AND YOU WILL BLOW YOUR ENGINE WHEN YOU GO OVER 64 MPH LIKE I DID"......just like any jackass who decides to save himself 8 dollars by buying "100% WHEY PROTEIN" from the likes of those guys over on the east coast that get shut down and open back up repeatedly
who make protein powders for boatloads of companies out there......shouldnt be able to tell everyone that "Whey protein is this and this and this".
Every month i get brokers of offspec protein (protein that after testing doesnt meet standards and is put off to the side for animal feed etc) try to get me to buy their 22 thousand pounds of OFFSPEC stuff. I say no thanks. Do you know what those shysters from New york, jersey and north carolina (cough Senegal) do? They buy that 3.27 a pound off spec stuff and make all these companies proteins with it and.....(allright im starting to ramble on again and getting too detailed)
3) I need to make this short because i could write a novel here.
My business partner and i opened this up in 2003 with the concept of "as close as you can get from the teet of the cow to the jug" as you can get. Unllike 98% of the retail companies out there that have custom manufacturers making their product and all they care about is "if it tastes good they will buy it" so who cares whats in it truly...."just make it taste good" (with that comes the "ok how can we get the price lower equation and is where you the consumer gets scammed").......what i do is buy massive amounts of the raw ingredients from the actual dairies, their packaging company or direct manufacturers of certain supplements like Ajinomoto aminos....there is no middle men....its just from them to me....we then package it and send it to you. There is no cutting, adding, or scamming to lower the cost. I get the lower cost by buying massive amounts which is why you dont see many people getting into the supplement industry currently. Its just way way too expensive to buy the massive amounts you need to get the price you need to be at.
So if your question is "are there flat out shysters in the supplement industry?" Yes its freaking sickening....
Are all retail companies shysters? Heck no.... It is a very basic principle...if it sounds too good to be true it is. If something is being touted to have drug like effects...IT WOULD BE A DRUG! Is it easier to drink down something than it is to eat something? Yes. With that said should someone take supplements all day long instead of whole food meals? Hell no. The reason they are called
supplements is because they can be used to
supplement a healthy diet to achieve goals.
Im sorry i just kept going back and forth with deleting but sometimes my anger overrules my thought process...so i stop reaccess and decide to do it in a less detailed vague way.......(as much as some of these guys are shysters when you screw with their livelihood they will come after you with 35 lawyers....I am hoping that people educate themselves and walk right thru hype and use deductive reasoning on the actual ingredients without me having to get into a court case............... to explain that to them)
(deleted this paragraph again after thinking about it sorry)....
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